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Thats good to hear actually. Maybe didn’t realise how badly he cleaned him out at the time, or was embarrassed by it and reacted strangely.
I think that to be honest.
 

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Nah, it's a shit decision 10/10 times given the same scenario and the logic behind it is simple, there's no 50-50 for the ball between Garcia and Aubameyang.Garcia has the situation under control, the ball is close to him and it isn't bouncing miles into the air so it's not going to go over him and he's also blocking the path for Aubameyang. There's just no need, whatsoever, for Ederson to come charging in, the distance between the players and the ball means that someone is always going to get twatted.

Even if he had shouted to make Garcia aware that he's charging for it, there's a big risk of completely fecking everything up as Garcia has feck all time to get away, you risk Garcia stepping the wrong way and preventing Ederson from reaching the ball.

So no, it's a shit decision
With the pace of Auba I really doubt Garcia had it under control. Even with the benefit of TV replays I can’t say for sure Garcia deals with it. The point is, there’s an element of doubt there, especially in real time as the attack unfolds. However, Ederson is under no doubt that he can beat both Garcia and Auba to the ball, so it’s the right decision to deal with it and leave nothing to chance. If he clears that ball without recklessly taking out Garcia too we’d all be applauding it as a great bit of keeping. It’s only the manner he dealt with the danger that’s the issue. I’ve seen Ederson make poor decisions in a City shirt enough times, but I don’t believe this is one of them (well, the coming out part, not the almost killing poor Garcia part).
 

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Eh... What did he do wrong in the Mane situation?
Stop flying out like a lunatic with no sense of danger! maybe a few more high boots in his face will do the job
 

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Stop flying out like a lunatic with no sense of danger! maybe a few more high boots in his face will do the job
Well that's nonsense, Mane was clearly in the wrong in that situation, and Ederson more often than not gets the sweeper part of his job well.
 

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Only one person mentioned it but the fact he hasn't given a shout to his defender that he is coming out is just piss poor communication from him. Especially since he can see he's prob going to be right in Garcias path. Smirking little a-hole.
 

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Well that's nonsense, Mane was clearly in the wrong in that situation, and Ederson more often than not gets the sweeper part of his job well.
It's odd, I assumed it was only Liverpool fans who thought Mane's wild kung fu kick wasn't one of the more obvious reds you'll see, but Martin Tyler last night said he thought he was hard done by! Incredible.
 

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No, just no.


You want your goalkeeper to not shy away from putting himself in harms way when required, but that's entirely different from going into duels endangering other players.

He's an absolute tool for going out there in the first place. Garcia has the situation under control, his position is perfect and there's 2 outfield players he can pass the ball to if he doesn't want to clear it. Ederson comes flying in without even shouting, arms lifted to protect himself, and completely knocks out Garcia who is focusing on the ball. Even if he didn't clatter the feck out of him and forcing the ref to stop play, his stupidity means that City have gone from being fully in control of the situation to an Arsenal player receiving the ball out wide with Ederson miles away from goal.

Ederson gets the square root of feck all correct in that situation.
It might be said but that doesn't mean it's correct.

1) At no point is endangering players through recklessly "taking everything out with him" a good thing. Not least because had it been the opposition player he collided with he would have been sent off. You can't do that on a football pitch.

2) In this case it needlessly increased the chances of City conceding a goal and reduced the chances of them winning the game. Which aside from anything else is poor goalkeeping.

Good goalkeeping would have been judging when to come out and when to stay back well, communicating with his teammates, not needlessly smashing into them when they're not expecting it, cleanly and effectively clearing the ball if he comes out and actually helping his team rather than hindering them.
1) I don’t see that as reckless. He’s gone to deal with a bouncing ball with his head, as you should in those circumstances. Not fists (as he could have in the area), by turning his body into situation or feet, which would be reckless. He also wouldn’t have been sent off for getting to the ball first, as he did. And from a goalkeeping perspective and that of trying to not concede goals, it is very much the correct thing to do. Focus on the ball and deal with the situation. If people end up in the way, so be it. The alternative is be worried about who is and what is going on around you and concede.

2) the alternative is let the quicker Aubameyang get through on goal and have a one on one.

Reaction odd, outcome sickening but goalkeepers have to be decisive often act quickly and deal with the consequences later to deal with danger. He did that.
 
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Only one person mentioned it but the fact he hasn't given a shout to his defender that he is coming out is just piss poor communication from him. Especially since he can see he's prob going to be right in Garcias path. Smirking little a-hole.
how do you know he hasn’t given a shout?
 

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1) I don’t see that as reckless. He’s gone to deal with a bouncing ball with his head, as you should in those circumstances. Not fists (as he could have in the area), by turning his body into situation or feet, which would be reckless. He also wouldn’t have been sent off for getting to the ball first, as he did. And from a goalkeeping perspective and that of trying to not concede goals, it is very much the correct thing to do. Focus on the ball and deal with the situation. If people end up in the way, so be it. The alternative is be worried about who is and what is going on around you and concede.

2) the alternative is let the quicker Aubameyang get through on goal and have a one on one.

Reaction odd, outcome sickening but goalkeepers have to be decisive often act quickly and deal with the consequences later to deal with danger. He did that.
:lol: Jesus christ
 

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Breaking News, there’s no fecking fans in the stand so you can hear pretty much everything on the pitch.
Cool. Got the video or assuming? ‘Pretty much everything’ ... guess that’s that then. You’ve convinced me.
 
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He’s been a clown this season. Not as good as the previous seasons.
 

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Hes had a horrible season. He doesnt make saves, he makes mistakes but he can pass a ball.
 

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No idea what he's thinking for the first goal and makes a mess of the third. Terrible performance.
 

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He's at that Joe Hart stage where the media refuse to acknowledge that mistakes with him are regular occurrences
 

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Overrated as feck. If that was De Gea he’d be hung drawn and quartered.
 

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Like a few of our players he's had a poor season.
 

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He's at that Joe Hart stage where the media refuse to acknowledge that mistakes with him are regular occurrences
BT commentary was shocking.

"Uncharacteristic mistake". He's been making them all season long.
 

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I love how every commentator in England tries to make us believe he's one of the best keepers in the world. He has never, ever, been close to the top keepers in the world.

Just because he plays for City doesn't mean he's automatically one of the best.
 

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The second goal isn’t being talked about much but it’s straight at him too. A keeper should be saving that one.
 

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Like a few of our players he's had a poor season.
No he’s not. Ederson’s had a good season. Let’s not forget he’s in the team for his build-up and that’s been exceptional as always, and he’s still kept the most clean sheets and kept us in a few games. Hardly a bad season individually.
 

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No he’s not. Ederson’s had a good season. Let’s not forget he’s in the team for his build-up and that’s been exceptional as always, and he’s still kept the most clean sheets and kept us in a few games. Hardly a bad season individually.
He's very good at that but he's still had as many cock ups this season as other seasons combined. He rarely save a ball "he has no right to save" He's the perfect keeper for us but he's been below par this season as have many.
 

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No he’s not. Ederson’s had a good season. Let’s not forget he’s in the team for his build-up and that’s been exceptional as always, and he’s still kept the most clean sheets and kept us in a few games. Hardly a bad season individually.
How in Christ can you think that? :lol:
 

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He's very good at that but he's still had as many cock ups this season as other seasons combined. He rarely save a ball "he has no right to save" He's the perfect keeper for us but he's been below par this season as have many.
I agree with this, almost every time he's praised its for his passing not for anything you'd expect a GK to be praised for