It's my understanding..... Sorry some journos on twitter.
Eduardo Camavinga / signs for Real Madrid
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The day of the bullshit sources.
That bald headed sky sports guy talks a lot for something that could be said in ten seconds
I think he got his big break working for ClubCall.
I've been a football fan for over 20 years and I am still confused about what the big appeal is about Real Madrid.
It's easy to say when you don't have the option anyway, but I could only see myself playing in the PL.
Anyway, if Cama wants to go there then fine. But I don't think many players enjoy playing at Madrid more than Man Utd
It's easy to say when you don't have the option anyway, but I could only see myself playing in the PL.
Anyway, if Cama wants to go there then fine. But I don't think many players enjoy playing at Madrid more than Man Utd
I've never really been confident we'd get Camavinga, because we need someone more ready-made at the moment, but I wouldn't take what baldy says seriously.
Every time, I hear him, he seems to be talking out his arse about what he "thinks" will happen.
I remember seeing him on Sky last year spending 10 minutes talking about the Sancho deal only to say, "it might happen, or it might not happen."
Yeah, you don't say.
Success, money money money, more success, status, beautiful historical city with amazing weather and your millionaire wife will probably love the shops and galleries. It’s a great package is Madrid and Barca
You forgot money. Also, money. Oh, before I forget, money.
The company I work for is literally set up for the sole purpose of allowing clubs worldwide to buy, sell and loan players.
Bidding wars DO happen with football transfers, I have seen this first hand. They are not common, but they do happen, that's all my point was. I have nothing to gain by lying about this.
But sure, romufc on RedCafe knows best.
amazing weather in Madrid ???
almost 700 meters above sea level....
They can typically earn more at other clubs in England or Paris, besides Barcelona under previous management who were spending so mad that they've almost bankrupted their club
.Think the allure and romanticism of playing at the most successful European club + great weather/lifestyle offsets the fickle fanbase and club politics.
It's why they still have strong pull even with the newer generations given that so many of the greatest players have donned that white shirt.
Hi, I'm coming to talk about Camavinga even though I can see that you already know a lot.
His first season was monstrous, a lot of qualities, excellent in pressing, in recovery, he played in No. 6, as a defensive midfielder. Already at this position his percussion qualities were visible which makes it a very complete midfielder. His passes are actually not his strong point, not a weak point either, just nothing out of the ordinary. In terms of attitude, he is a fighter (still running just as much in the 90th minute), very serene and mature, who never lets go. Appreciated by everyone at the club, professional and motivated to become a great player. He has his head on his shoulders and has to accept 1 or 2 passages on the bench. He experienced a personal tragedy at a very young age, the family house burned down completely, which is why he is a mature young man.
His second season had started well. Subsequently his change of agent and his selections for the national team hurt him. Everything is going very fast for him, too fast. He was injured and took almost 1 month to come back. In addition, his position has also evolved, he played in 8 last year and sometimes seemed less comfortable with his back to the game, less effective defensively and a little more timid. His association with Nzonzi was not working.
His season remains good but he still dropped a level. I think that he would need a little time to adapt and a coach who asks him to play on his qualities: pressing, recovery, percussion ball to the feet. In my opinion for 40m € it is yours, we are in a bad position to negotiate. In conclusion, yes he is indeed a prodigy, what he showed with us is really amazing regardless of his age, he has incredible physical abilities, in the duel he resists players much stronger than him, he is very lively. and enduring. Technically flawless on ball controls, able to dribble. He needs to improve on his passes, make good openings like Pogba and score more goals.
Here I hope to have informed you a little more but do not forget that I am a Rennes supporter so I lack a little objectivity. And sorry for my terrible English
His first season was monstrous, a lot of qualities, excellent in pressing, in recovery, he played in No. 6, as a defensive midfielder. Already at this position his percussion qualities were visible which makes it a very complete midfielder. His passes are actually not his strong point, not a weak point either, just nothing out of the ordinary. In terms of attitude, he is a fighter (still running just as much in the 90th minute), very serene and mature, who never lets go. Appreciated by everyone at the club, professional and motivated to become a great player. He has his head on his shoulders and has to accept 1 or 2 passages on the bench. He experienced a personal tragedy at a very young age, the family house burned down completely, which is why he is a mature young man.
His second season had started well. Subsequently his change of agent and his selections for the national team hurt him. Everything is going very fast for him, too fast. He was injured and took almost 1 month to come back. In addition, his position has also evolved, he played in 8 last year and sometimes seemed less comfortable with his back to the game, less effective defensively and a little more timid. His association with Nzonzi was not working.
His season remains good but he still dropped a level. I think that he would need a little time to adapt and a coach who asks him to play on his qualities: pressing, recovery, percussion ball to the feet. In my opinion for 40m € it is yours, we are in a bad position to negotiate. In conclusion, yes he is indeed a prodigy, what he showed with us is really amazing regardless of his age, he has incredible physical abilities, in the duel he resists players much stronger than him, he is very lively. and enduring. Technically flawless on ball controls, able to dribble. He needs to improve on his passes, make good openings like Pogba and score more goals.
Here I hope to have informed you a little more but do not forget that I am a Rennes supporter so I lack a little objectivity. And sorry for my terrible English
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I thought you were talking about Manchester until you got to the weather bit
What is so bad in UK weather? I lived there for two years and loved the weather. Winter wasn’t too cold, summer wasn’t too hot, it wasn’t even rainy. People actually decide to move elsewhere just because of the weather?
Saiid Javid knows nothing
In terms of the city, I don't actually like Madrid much. It feels a little without personality to me (mind you I've only been there on a couple of short breaks). Barcelona is a different kettle of fish.
only problem is Madrid, much like Barca, are skint for money right now and can't spend 30m on Camavinga
Thank you for your insight. It’s good to hear from a Rennes fan
your English is perfect
Promote him
Don't listen to geebs, your English isn't perfect. It's very good but obviously not your first language which is noticeable in the style and some of the terminology. No need to apologize, it's more than good enough for the forums.
I'm particularly intrigued by the term "percussion qualities" which I assume means his ability to dictate the match tempo. If so, this is a very colourful and clever way to express it. Thanks for the information! We look forward to more insight from you.
You won't get sacked for saying the company?
The company I work for is literally set up for the sole purpose of allowing clubs worldwide to buy, sell and loan players.
Bidding wars DO happen with football transfers, I have seen this first hand. They are not common, but they do happen, that's all my point was. I have nothing to gain by lying about this.
But sure, romufc on RedCafe knows best.
Camavinga is the player I would most like to have for United out of the 3 we have been linked to the most (Camavinga, Sancho and Varane). His talent is huge and he can become a truly world class player.
That's a very good insight.
The second season is quite similar to Greenwood's one, where he got into the national team and almost the fame took over for a moment.
It is a common theme with youngsters coming through, the breakout season is amazing followed by an average one. It is expected to see that inconsistency from a youngster though.
The main thing is how his attitude is, if he wants to be a star, with his attributes I think he will get there.
Nice post. Very insightful.
Camaving and Mjebri to make up for the Fred and Mctominay years. One can dream.
excellent stuff mate....and your english is a hell of a lot better than my french so well done to you.
Massive fan of this young lad myself and i think he would be a brilliant addition to the squad
The only times you ever hear Sheth commit to anything is when the story has already broken, bid accepted, and the player is in signing the contract. He hedges his bets right up to that point. I’d love his job…
Love the description of his “percussion”. That’s just wonderful. Thanks, and your English is more than fine
If Madrid is interest and willing to pay 30m, should we up our bid to 40m or something, to which Madrid would be no longer interest? (since they are in cost saving plans to get Mbappe anyway, we would have clear advantage there)
There's a big difference between playing with two defensive midfielders and playing with two midfielders who are both solid defensively. Realistically we try to do the latter as neither Fred nor McTominay are actually defensive midfielders, but both of them are stronger in the defensive aspects than they are on the ball.
Ideally we need players who provide both defensive stability and playmaking. We need to get away from this situation where we try to fit in players who provide very little defensive stability (Pogba) or very little on-the-ball ability (McTominay), as either scenario leaves us poorly balanced. Both midfielders should be solid at both. It doesn't matter how good your defence is, your midfield needs to help protect them.
McTominay in particular really doesn't do any more defensive work than the average midfielder, it's just that he provides so little when we have the ball (other than the three or four really good games a season where he steps it up) that people make the mistake of thinking that he's actually compensating for that by doing a lot defensively. He really doesn't. It shouldn't be that hard to sign a midfielder that provides at least as much defensively as he does while also giving us much more playmaking ability.
I would say our best approach is to string Madrid along on Varane for as long as we can while we secretly wrap this deal up so that can't use any Varane money to buy Camavinga.
It is a pleasure to give you this information. In Rennes we all have a lot of sympathy for Cama and we hope that he will make the right choice. I like the possibility of Man Utd, the challenge is great and beautiful for him, and for you too to regain your splendor. And I'm a huge Cantona fan, I watch all of his movies ahah. I hope you will act quickly, this will allow you to overtake the competition and us to begin our mourning. And if by the way you can leave Sulemana to us, I will come and thank you.
Dwazza, for his percussion qualities: he has a great ability to win big shots at the foot, good rides. You talk about "dictating the tempo" what I can tell you is that he always asks for the ball, moves, frees himself from the marking to be available for his teammates. Then he can progress to become a team leader which is not yet the case, even if in Rennes we had fun seeing from time to time giving instructions to experienced players.
Pascell :
With the youngsters, his coach said that sometimes he made him play a defender when the team was leading and attacking when we lost. Not very smart but pragmatic. He was trained as No. 8 from the age of 15.
last year he played 8 because he seemed to want it and to have the qualities for it. His first year, he is so strong in the defensive midfielder that we dare not change this little prodigy that appears. With the summer preparation and discussions with the coach, it was decided to put him n ° 8, his position for the future I think. But like many players, he needs complementarity with his teammates. There are aspects where he will be the strongest but others that he will not be able to do.
Dwazza, for his percussion qualities: he has a great ability to win big shots at the foot, good rides. You talk about "dictating the tempo" what I can tell you is that he always asks for the ball, moves, frees himself from the marking to be available for his teammates. Then he can progress to become a team leader which is not yet the case, even if in Rennes we had fun seeing from time to time giving instructions to experienced players.
Pascell :
With the youngsters, his coach said that sometimes he made him play a defender when the team was leading and attacking when we lost. Not very smart but pragmatic. He was trained as No. 8 from the age of 15.
last year he played 8 because he seemed to want it and to have the qualities for it. His first year, he is so strong in the defensive midfielder that we dare not change this little prodigy that appears. With the summer preparation and discussions with the coach, it was decided to put him n ° 8, his position for the future I think. But like many players, he needs complementarity with his teammates. There are aspects where he will be the strongest but others that he will not be able to do.
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What would be the point of me doing that?
Is it so you know that a company which helps facilitate football transfers actually exists?
Fàbregas level talent, at the very least.
Thanks for the insight. What position and how did he play for your youth teams? Do you feel this past season playing him as an 8 was to develop his game overall even more, or was it down to injuries to other players?
This doesn't make much sense to me. Sancho is only a couple of years older but is already putting in consistently top class performances at the highest level. Sancho is basically a sure thing, you surely couldn't say the same thing for Camavinga yet.
Basically he's a no 6...ie defensive midfielder? I'd buy him for the future regardless.
Yes, it's a risk; I agree. I guess as a fan I'm more focused on a generational talent staying at United than I am on the money.
Now the transfer is based on feeling? This is advance stuff.
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