We saw the bat signal, actually featuring slicked back hair and an hermès tie, and quickly rushed to the defense of our oppressed kind.I always felt that there was something fishy about you two.
Emmanuel Macron
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60's and 2000's. Different street cred. What was the word on the street about investment bankers in the 60's?
I almost went the banking way but in insight I would have strangled someone at some point.Seems like a neoliberal who wants a deregulated labour market and financial markets, tax cuts, decrease in government spending etc. Like what you'd expect from a banker.
Some of those are standard policies for most non-authoritarian politicians.
That depends where the starting point is and where you stand politically. It's not binary.
Those are all fairly capitalist positions. As opposed to the likes of Putin or Duarte.
Never seen Putin's name spelled that way. Isn't Poutine a canadian word for chips and gravy?
Scandinavian countries have more financial and labour market regulations and we pay much higher taxes than in Russia. Guess we are the real authoritarian bad guys.
Have they also recently invaded their neighbors and stolen their land ?
No, my point was only that not all regulation points to authoritarianism. Russia have regulations that protects the oligarchs while we tend to protect the weakest in society.
And Macron is apparently for a Scandinavian model.
My guess is Macron, Merkel etc probably feel a bit more confident after the latest rounds of elections. The populist surge in Europe has largely fallen flat a bit; Hofer lost, Wilders came nowhere near first place after being predicted to do so, and Le Pen was firmly trounced. With the AfD doing little more than UKIP even managed in the UK, the pro-EU types like Merkel and Macron presumably aren't too worried about division for the time being and will want to stand firm against Russia.
Still wary of getting too keen about Macron though; he may still struggle to get through a lot of his planned reforms. Certainly much better than Hollande, at least in presentation.
Still wary of getting too keen about Macron though; he may still struggle to get through a lot of his planned reforms. Certainly much better than Hollande, at least in presentation.
Shock horror, the Brexiteers don't like Macron
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Having ruled out.working.with Wilders,.the dutxh are unable to form a coalition and may go back to another GE. ignoring people opinion is not always smart?
That's more down to the fact Dutch politics has about 27 parties or something. Wilders still did quite shite compared to what was expected, which is a relief to those who oppose populism I'd argue.
What the feck is wrong with being an investment banker?
Nothing wrong with it but it's typically the position of someone who is upper middle class and only cares about the acquisition of wealth. Macron is also someone who comes from a relatively privileged background, so one has to ask how much does he really care about those at the bottom of society. Not to get too off the topic at hand, we are praising him for standing up to Trump and Putin but who's interest does he work in, France and Europe or for those he ties with in his previous career?
I will also add that my view of investment bankers has been formed by movies, TV shows and the financial crisis. When I think of an investment banker I think of Patrick Bateman. Of course, like all stereotypes they don't represent the whole group
There are people from privileged background that care about people less well off.
Coming from a well to do background is not a disqualifying characteristic or even one that should evoke any sort of suspicion. Ultimately, one can't choose who their parents are or the circumstances of how they grew up. You can only look at their actions and policy positions and go from there.
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Think it's a convenient solution to all sides, so why shouldn't he?
But wait I was under the impression Europe weren't doing anything to combat terrorism
What is this radical madness
Nothing wrong with it but it's typically the position of someone who is upper middle class and only cares about the acquisition of wealth. Macron is also someone who comes from a relatively privileged background, so one has to ask how much does he really care about those at the bottom of society. Not to get too off the topic at hand, we are praising him for standing up to Trump and Putin but who's interest does he work in, France and Europe or for those he ties with in his previous career?
I will also add that my view of investment bankers has been formed by movies, TV shows and the financial crisis. When I think of an investment banker I think of Patrick Bateman. Of course, like all stereotypes they don't represent the whole group
Patrick Bateman Also-surely the financial crisis should be the only thing of those 3 influencing you REALLY. Not a Christian Bale movie!
Well not just American Psycho but I believe that many of our perceptions are now shaped by TV, particularly with groups we are not in direct contact with. It's not something I really feel too bad about because investment bankers aren't some oppressed minority.
Also-surely the financial crisis should be the only thing of those 3 influencing you REALLY. Not a Christian Bale movie!
Accountants and lawyers have done far more immoral and unethical (as well as illegal) dealings in the past than bankers. The banking system is flawed, and there are some bad characters in the profession, like in any profession. Most of the lads I've known in IB and trading grew up in regular Irish backgrounds. Common denominator is usually a strong work ethic and excellent academics. Probably a different story in the UK and US however, but most people still get top positions through talent and perseverance.
Regardless, France needs labor and industrial reforms, or else faces further economic problems in future. A fresh face is needed to implement them. There's a difference between progressing the economy in a fair manner, and fecking over the weakest members of society. People assume the latter. On Macron, most of his speeches and actions thus far have been impressive. Expectations are high, but if his general vision progresses, then Europe and France will be in a much better position in the future.
Regardless, France needs labor and industrial reforms, or else faces further economic problems in future. A fresh face is needed to implement them. There's a difference between progressing the economy in a fair manner, and fecking over the weakest members of society. People assume the latter. On Macron, most of his speeches and actions thus far have been impressive. Expectations are high, but if his general vision progresses, then Europe and France will be in a much better position in the future.
Have you thought about basing your expectations for Macron on what he as a politician (advisor to Hollande, minister in Holland cabinet, campaiging politician) has said, done or attempted to get done?Nothing wrong with it but it's typically the position of someone who is upper middle class and only cares about the acquisition of wealth. Macron is also someone who comes from a relatively privileged background, so one has to ask how much does he really care about those at the bottom of society. Not to get too off the topic at hand, we are praising him for standing up to Trump and Putin but who's interest does he work in, France and Europe or for those he ties with in his previous career?
I will also add that my view of investment bankers has been formed by movies, TV shows and the financial crisis. When I think of an investment banker I think of Patrick Bateman. Of course, like all stereotypes they don't represent the whole group
2nd largest party ignored. Coalition of 2 could become 5. We know how akward a coalition of 27 can be already.
First Mbappe and now him. fecking French have the best of every world.
They had me at Hello with Eric!
Just occurred to me, they probably deliberately change the spelling of his name because of what "putin" means in French. If the cap fits...
