England squad (Games against Bulgaria and Kosovo)

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I m not watching the game but in the first minutes of the game, posters were moaning about Southgate.
England are 4-0 up after 70 mins...it don t reflect well on the expertise of some caftards over here.
Seems some people were born to moan. Sad lot
Even Solskjaer or Boothroyd would win easily with this team against Bulgaria.

We have looked average against a awful Bulgaria side especially in midfield.
 

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Beating any team 4-0 is a good result nowadays. I ve seen England struggling against shit teams in the past, so a 4-0 win is more than welcome
Yeh. Remember that umbrella man couldn't get England passed a minnow on the last game to qualify for WC?
 

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:lol: oh yeah its 4-0, England were playing like prime Barcelona in the first half then.
Not what I said at all. Whenever the Caf thinks a line up is bad the team goes and wins the game.
 

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Rashford did the right thing, but the dink wasnt deft enough.
 

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Rashford with a great run, good save in the end. He probably should have scored to be honest, but good move.
 

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It was a beautiful first touch by Rashford at that speed and the finish he chose was the right decision, just lacked some technique.
 

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Rashford with a great run, good save in the end. He probably should have scored to be honest, but good move.
For those of our fans who continually complain about Rashford, just look at what he can do alongside better players.
 

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I am a huge admirer of Southgate. He is a good thinker and I especially like the way he wants his players to take much more responsibility. His teams are well balanced and move well and are significantly better than the so called golden generation.
Southgate played with some great leaders for England before the golden generation. Players who knew all about team work.
 

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Good result for England. Front three were very good, midfield was a little uninspiring, lacked creativity at times.
 

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England team is better than the United team and he is also playing on the left so no surprise Rashford looks better.
I like a 4231 but I would like to see United playing a 433 like England did.

Rashford Martial James
Pogba Fred McTominay
Shaw Maguire Lindelof Wan-Bissaka
De Gea

James and Rashford rotating like Sterling and Rashford did today.
 

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I like a 4231 but I would like to see United playing a 433 like England did.

Rashford Martial James
Pogba Fred McTominay
Shaw Maguire Lindelof Wan-Bissaka
De Gea

James and Rashford rotating like Sterling and Rashford did today.
Problem is James also looks better on the left. We should play a 3 man midfield but Ole is yet to change it.
 

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Agree with Keane, Rashford can learn from Sterling with how he plays and is now getting goals and lots of tap ins.
 

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Embarrassing, really. Once, one of the better teams in Europe/World that played with great determination, nowadays a San Marino level team...
 

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You literally spoke about Rashford.
It was more that I got the impression that he may think I am one of these people that constantly moan about Rashford whereas I've always liked Rashford but I am aware he gets a lot of criticism - rightfully in some cases.
 

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Yeh. Remember that umbrella man couldn't get England passed a minnow on the last game to qualify for WC?
That was Mclaren and it was the 2008 Euros. England are 14-1 from their first 3 games, I don’t recall an England team ever being good at thrashing smaller nations. We generally used to always win by small margins or draw.
 
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Rashford still looks very raw and the odd one out with more mature and polished players around him. Of course he has talent but really he is a good young (and inconsistent) player surrounded by better players in a fairly balanced system. These are ideal circumstances for him. He is relied upon and tries too much at United and that is a problem.... the team is unbalanced and there are not enough top quality senior performers to take control of games.
 

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Three games!

Call me an old fart but I still think an international call up should be earned.
A lot of the times they will give players caps just to make sure they can't play anywhere else. For example, England never capped Zaha so now he's playing for Ivory Coast. So now, even if they won't necesarily play a person again, they will at least try to cap them to make sure they can call them up if needed and not playing for another country...
 

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Southgate played with some great leaders for England before the golden generation. Players who knew all about team work.
Yes he did. But how many of those great leaders have gone onto become good managers.
 

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That was Mclaren and it was the 2008 Euros. England are 14-1 from their first 3 games, I don’t recall an England team ever being good at thrashing smaller nations. We generally used to always win by small margins or draw.
You're right.

This team under Southgate seems like a close kin. No primadona. They also play it simple but effective.
 

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Rashford still looks very raw and the odd one out with more mature and polished players around him. Of course he has talent but really he is a good young (and inconsistent) player surrounded by better players in a fairly balanced system. These are ideal circumstances for him. He is relied upon and tries too much at United and that is a problem.... the team is unbalanced and there are not enough top quality senior performers to take control of games.
This. He's expected to lead the line for Manchester United at the age of 21 and is judged as such. With the risk of sounding like Jamie Redknapp, in previous squads he'd have been out on loan at Everton or coming on for Rooney/RVP/Tevez etc for 20 minutes at the end of a game. Another point is that he's suffered from the same boom/bust cycle that many young English players have suffered from in recent years (Sterling, Barkley, Ox, Alli, Walker, Stones all off the top of my head). They break into the first teams at a young age and look new and exciting and perhaps get over hyped, then become familiar and begin to be criticised and underrated.
 

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Christ, England had some great midfield options on the bench but they went for cloggers like Rice and Henderson. And as for Barkley, I don’t even know what he’s meant to be.
 

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Not what I said at all. Whenever the Caf thinks a line up is bad the team goes and wins the game.
Us winning at home to Bulgaria was never in doubt, but the lineup was unnecessarily conservative/didn't really take advantage of the chance to experiment imo.

We'll obviously win these games, purely due to a tremendous quality gap.
 

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Us winning at home to Bulgaria was never in doubt, but the lineup was unnecessarily conservative/didn't really take advantage of the chance to experiment imo.

We'll obviously win these games, purely due to a tremendous quality gap.
The manager has to consider team shape and structure going forward. All good and well crying about Sancho not starting but he is a different player to Sterling and Rashford.
 

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How many points we get will directly effect the seeding at the Euros that’s why Southgate won’t experiment
 

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The manager has to consider team shape and structure going forward. All good and well crying about Sancho not starting but he is a different player to Sterling and Rashford.
If he wants to think about team structure then IMO Sancho is better suited to what he's trying to do. Rashford is a real threat through the middle but I'm not sold on him when he's pushed out wide, to be honest.

Sancho's ability to beat a man and whip a ball in to the likes of Kane, and sterling arriving at the back post, should be what we go with going forward. He's just a better, more creative wide man than Rashford is.