Kostov
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Lindelof has blunders in his game for two years, so what’s your point?Bailly has been rash and brainless for 2 years.
Lindelof has blunders in his game for two years, so what’s your point?Bailly has been rash and brainless for 2 years.
Not true it’s always been there, most comments were along the lines of I close my eyes everytime he goes in to a tackle and so on.Not really. He was our best defender in his first year. Injuries have slowed his progression but no-one accused him of rashness or being brainless .
Is this a Souness quote on Pogba?He is very athletic and brave too. He is quick but he does not have a footballing brain. He does not know how to play as a team. It is all individualism with him. He is way too reckless and he really could have conceded a penalty too before.
He is ok with the ball at his feet. He does not pass it well though.He's a very good 'one on one' defender and a great athlete; who I would argue is pretty good on the ball as well (although you disagree). I think there's a player there.
It definitely reads like one. However, I agree with the post. Bailly is a monster, but he's reckless. He's been here for 2.5 years and he still hasn't matured.Is this a Souness quote on Pogba?
Believe it passionately all you want. I think it's pretty clear he isn't if he can't head a fecking ball.I've believe passionately that he's our best CB by some distance. He's got it all, strength and aggression, pace, change of pace. Just needs to reign in that occasional recklessness. Love seeing him in our starting XI.
He's had more than enough time to do it. He's a headless chicken. He's lucky to only have one red card in the league.I've believe passionately that he's our best CB by some distance. He's got it all, strength and aggression, pace, change of pace. Just needs to reign in that occasional recklessness. Love seeing him in our starting XI.
Does he really only have 1 red card in the league? That's unbelievable thought he had at least a few more.He's had more than enough time to do it. He's a headless chicken. He's lucky to only have one red card in the league.
According to these stats, he has 6 yellows and 1 red in the league, in 46 appearances. https://www.premierleague.com/players/12937/Eric-Bailly/statsDoes he really only have 1 red card in the league? That's unbelievable thought he had at least a few more.
He was only our best for the first three or so months of that season. After that he spent the rest of the season either playing poorly, injured or off at the ACON (where he played poorly if I remember correctly). Actually to be fair there was another month later in the season where he did play fairly well (Rojo was better though), before he inevitably got injured again.Not really. He was our best defender in his first year. Injuries have slowed his progression but no-one accused him of rashness or being brainless .
My first comment in a thread comparing him to Vidic in August 2016.Not really. He was our best defender in his first year. Injuries have slowed his progression but no-one accused him of rashness or being brainless .
Far too early yet to be making such comparisons. Looks rash so far which will cost us a few goals I think.
He's at fault for the first City goal in the first Derby under Mourinho because he decided not to jump for a header. The idea he wasn't getting criticism in his first season is nonsense.My first comment in a thread comparing him to Vidic in August 2016.
I think he's prone to tunnel vision at times. I don't mind an aggressive defender willing to get stuck in but that red card challenge was unnecessary. The player wasn't going anywhere. Also, he isn't playing alongside a more experienced head that could guide him a bit.He's had more than enough time to do it. He's a headless chicken. He's lucky to only have one red card in the league.
Don't forget "by some distance" also. So according to him, Bailly is a level or two above Smalling and Jones.Believe it passionately all you want. I think it's pretty clear he isn't if he can't head a fecking ball.
Yeah it’s not the best but has a lot going against him. A shame as he looked a potential great signing. Hopefully 4th choice next year. Maybe 5th.* And he also has a really crap fitness record.
Not even close. Even if you take away the remedial red and the nailed on penalty for a 6 ft high totally unnecessary jump-kick. Lindelof was having to cover for his poor positioning constantly, and was also about 3x more composed on the ball despite being on the more uncomfortable side.
And that was when Mourinho threw Blind under the bus and decided he wasn't good enough to play centre back again (still think he's better than quite a few of the centre backs we have here)He's at fault for the first City goal in the first Derby under Mourinho because he decided not to jump for a header. The idea he wasn't getting criticism in his first season is nonsense.
Actually he’s at the bottom of the food chain, lowest heading ability than herrera probably. To me that should put him on the list to ship out as soon as possible. Recklessness is an add-on..And that was when Mourinho threw Blind under the bus and decided he wasn't good enough to play centre back again (still think he's better than quite a few of the centre backs we have here)
How is he best cb just based on physical attributes ? All of the best defender in history has more brain than brawn, not other way around. For example Bailly being bad in the air means he is bad at timed his jump or misjudge where the ball will drop.I've believe passionately that he's our best CB by some distance. He's got it all, strength and aggression, pace, change of pace. Just needs to reign in that occasional recklessness. Love seeing him in our starting XI.
Usually Ramos gets sent off for being cynical in my experience of watching him, Bailly just makes braindead decisions.Rash like Ramos but also a bit idiotic and hasty.
He's quick but his decision making has been questionable. Still think He has the highest ceilings out of all our CBs though.
In terms of ball-playing, he's better than Smalling but he's very erratic. Sometimes pulls off a good pass that Smalling wouldn't (e.g. the lofted pass to Lukaku that started the sequence for our second goal against City last season), but he has no consistency at all at the moment. Jones in the past few games has shown more composure on the ball than Bailly, and I would contend (to the Caf's howls of derision) that Rojo contributes more to our attacking play with his passing than Bailly and indeed Jones.I keep hearing he is one of our best ball playing centrebacks but in that game I saw nothing that suggests he is anywhere near one of the best that people like Stephen Howson say he is. In that game he was mostly passing it sideways and was making one too many touches just to make a decision. Also as per usual he was being far too rash and it cost him his game. There was literally no reason to flying into a tackle like he did 4-1 up, there is just no logical reason. That is not something that a good defender does. The thing is though, it's not isolated, he does it in most of his games. He did it a fair few times in that game, one that stands out was his tackle against one of the Bournemouth players outside the box on the right back position, he was going nowhere and he flew into a tackle on him resulting in a freekick. He's not even one of the best defenders in our team, let alone the league.
Lindelof probably reckons he can't match someone in a straight up physical duel, which is why he focuses on making interceptions rather than tackles. It might help him to bulk up a bit but I don't think he'll ever be that aerially dominant as a defender, which is why the next CB we sign has to be able to compensate for that.He seems too aggressive while lindelof looks passive than he should be.
Bailly needs some mental calmness, to effect that in his game as well.
Lindelof lost his marker twice in the game and cost us the goal. He failed to intercept or even trying to get close to AkeLindelof probably reckons he can't match someone in a straight up physical duel, which is why he focuses on making interceptions rather than tackles. It might help him to bulk up a bit but I don't think he'll ever be that aerially dominant as a defender, which is why the next CB we sign has to be able to compensate for that.
Are you trolling? Because Ake was being marked by Matic and if any CB was at fault there it was Bailly being drawn out of position when Lingard was dealing with the situation.Lindelof lost his marker twice in the game and cost us the goal. He failed to intercept or even trying to get close to Ake
Yeah which is why I'm not a huge fan of signing Alderweireld whose main weakness is said to be aerial too.For a tall bloke, Bailly is pretty terrible in the air. And that aerial weakness is an issue whenever he plays alongside Lindelof.
Yes. He is Lindelof's level, if not worse. Bailly for example is much better than him on the air.Yeah which is why I'm not a huge fan of signing Alderweireld whose main weakness is said to be aerial too.
He doesn't have all the attributes though does he, not all. He can't head the ball for a start. Mental attributes are just important as physical/ ability attributes.Bailly has all the attributes to be the best CB at United but mental issue is why he is down the pecking order. Jones and Bailly are so similar, I pray that one of them will develop into the CB that we believe they can be.
He's actually our worst. Worst vision and makes the least passes of our CBs. He sticks to easy passes and he's fine at delivering them. But thats all you get. He's a bit better at running the ball out of the back, not as good as Jones though.I keep hearing he is one of our best ball playing centrebacks but in that game I saw nothing that suggests he is anywhere near one of the best that people like Stephen Howson say he is. In that game he was mostly passing it sideways and was making one too many touches just to make a decision. Also as per usual he was being far too rash and it cost him his game. There was literally no reason to flying into a tackle like he did 4-1 up, there is just no logical reason. That is not something that a good defender does. The thing is though, it's not isolated, he does it in most of his games. He did it a fair few times in that game, one that stands out was his tackle against one of the Bournemouth players outside the box on the right back position, he was going nowhere and he flew into a tackle on him resulting in a freekick. He's not even one of the best defenders in our team, let alone the league.