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"Player goes to birthday party - redcafe posters are furious"
Not to defend the wage package that was offered but I think Mbappé probably was. Haaland and Enzo Fernandez as well. And now you have Chelsea offering 7+ years contracts to 20-21 yo. Not the same level of weekly wages but huge total financial commitments.But of course, no other club would give 21 year old those wages.
It's a bit more than that. This is one of the most controversial moments of his career, he's not playing well, he's being called out for not training property and by the looks of it does not have the support of the fans and players and he...... goes to a celeb party in NY and posts it on social media while at the same time leaving the offending Post disputing his commitment being questioned pinned to his twitter account. It's tone deaf and shows his priorities. He should be burying his head in shame or training with fury, not off to celeb parties and flaunting the party lifestyle."Player goes to birthday party - redcafe posters are furious"
Why do you write in code ? Are the Chinese spying here ?Uh oh, just read what GS said about Foden.
PF PR to the rescue! Any second now..
National media outrage. Any second now..
Oh, that was written 7 hours ago?
Darn. Anyway...
More like shit player is paid 350k a week. He can attend multiple orgies a week for all I care if he's performing on the pitch. The fact is he is literally shit at football at a PL level so he is of no use to this club. Just like Pep and City understood when they didn't fight to keep him. He can party all he wants as long as he fecks off from United."Player goes to birthday party - redcafe posters are furious"
I would be very surprised. Why would anything positive happen now when this is now Sancho's 3rd season at the club while it has been 5+ years of the same old, stupid shit?Sancho removed the post. Positive move?
https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ncho-removes-message-questioning-erik-ten-hag
People don’t stop living their lives because work isn’t going according to plan. He was on his off time and went to a birthday party. Bit odd to be furious about it.More like shit player is paid 350k a week. He can attend multiple orgies a week for all I care if he's performing on the pitch. The fact is he is literally shit at football at a PL level so he is of no use to this club. Just like Pep and City understood when they didn't fight to keep him. He can party all he wants as long as he fecks off from United.
In NY! He's 24 and paid a fortune. He should be away on international duty. But he is so bad at his job right now, and from the outside looking in, he couldn't be arsed. It's not acceptable for a player of Manchester United to be like this. Are you deliberately being stupid? There are a few other posters ITT like you. It's laughable. It's a terrible look considering what's going on with his career. How he has handled ETH calling him out on his attitude at work. Do you honestly think this all hasn't been said in private multiple times to him already? He is in the public eye and everything will be scrutinised. Everything that i have seen from him so far screams that he is acting like a petulant child."Player goes to birthday party - redcafe posters are furious"
He is 18 years old.I don't know about him. He hardly ever starts a game for Dortmund ahead of Haller, Malen, Reus and Brandt, let alone being of the requisite quality to be helpful here.
Look at you all emotional because Sancho went to a birthday party "in NY!" in his time-off. Do you go to work and put him triple shifts on your days off or something?In NY! He's 24 and paid a fortune. He should be away on international duty. But he is so bad at his job right now, and from the outside looking in, he couldn't be arsed. It's not acceptable for a player of Manchester United to be like this. Are you deliberately being stupid? There are a few other posters ITT like you. It's laughable. It's a terrible look considering what's going on with his career. How he has handled ETH calling him out on his attitude at work. Do you honestly think this all hasn't been said in private multiple times to him already? He is in the public eye and everything will be scrutinised. Everything that i have seen from him so far screams that he is acting like a petulant child.
That's not really my contention. My contention is in response to the poster who recommended him because we need another striker. If indeed he's not starting games because he's 18, as you say, then supplementing our inexperienced 20 year old Hojlund with a soon-to-be 19 year old as backup is just asking for problems.He is 18 years old.
Oh, absolutely.That's not really my contention. My contention is in response to the poster who recommended him because we need another striker. If indeed he's not starting games because he's 18, as you say, then supplementing our inexperienced 20 year old Hojlund with a soon-to-be 19 year old as backup is just asking for problems.
Shame his day off is because he can’t make the international side…Look at you all emotional because Sancho went to a birthday party "in NY!" in his time-off. Do you go to work and put him triple shifts on your days off or something?
Is the guy not allowed a life outside of Manchester United - all because he's paid a fortune?
I don't know why you guys keep quipping about him not making the national side - everyone knows he's underperformed and I don't think I've stated or implied otherwise. I simply think it's weirdo behaviour to pick up pitchforks because a player went to a birthday party on his time off.Shame his day off is because he can’t make the international side
I mean come on he’s in the middle of a high publicised spat with the manager presumably regarding his work rate and he’s in NYC
The rest of the squad Rashford etc have been training all week and playing 2 international games it’s a fecking joke
This. Same silly crap you see from the likes of Neymar, Paul Pogba and Jesse Lingard - epitomes of everything going wrong with today's footballers.He should be at Carrington proving a point.
The RW spot is completely up for grabs. I understand he’s allowed a holiday, but he should be wanting to force his way back.
I don’t see it with him. I think he’ll be sold/loaned in January. All the talent in the world but just the wrong levels of application.
I don't know why you guys keep quipping about him not making the national side - everyone knows he's underperformed and I don't think I've stated or implied otherwise. I simply think it's weirdo behaviour to pick up pitchforks because a player went to a birthday party on his time off.
"Look at him not working on his day-off "
The way you guys speak about football players has undertones that make me uncomfortable and I just can't get on board with - that's not to say he can't be criticised for not performing on the pitch, and supposedly in training - according to the manager, but when people start posting pictures of players in their personal time with the purpose of rallying up vitriol towards them - I think that's the point a sensible adult would say "eh, we're jumping into weirdo territory here"
I'm not debating "reasons" as to why he's got time-off. I said I find it odd to be angry at a player going to a party on their time-off - please be objective, and don't trail off in random tangents, please.The reason he’s got time off is because of his attitude and work rate let’s not act like it’s a well deserved break the vast majority of the squad are travelling around the globe training and playing 2 games
So he plays shit, gets called out for his attitude and the reward is a party in NYC Great stuff
He’s just had a summer off we’re 4 games into the season ffs
Baffled that you’re defending him after the week he’s had to be honest
Football is a job, but it is not a normal one. Sancho is competing in his job with some other players to become one of the selected first 11, and on top of that in theory he is in competition with several other players for a spot in the national team. It's absolutely normal for players to do more than absolutely required from them, because it is in their own interest to improve. What Sancho does sends the message, that he doesn't care (much) for his personal improvement, and that rubs people the wrong way.Football is a job. If he’s authorised to go on holiday then he should.
What is a normal job? Is being in competition with colleagues the qualifier that somehow sets football apart? Because it doesn'tFootball is a job, but it is not a normal one. Sancho is competing in his job with some other players to become one of the selected first 11, and on top of that in theory he is in competition with several other players for a spot in the national team. It's absolutely normal for players to do more than absolutely required from them, because it is in their own interest to improve. What Sancho does sends the message, that he doesn't care (much) for his personal improvement, and that rubs people the wrong way.
He was left out specifically because of his efforts in training. It would make sense that he put in extra training to make up for this. He has a personal life (parties etc are fine), but surely he would want to show that he is willing to make up ground? In short, take the break but come back early.What is a normal job? Is being in competition with colleagues the qualifier that somehow sets football apart? Because it doesn't
Football is a job. Players are employees with contracts. They have the right to use their personal time for themselves. If he has an authorised day-off , he's by no means required to be at Carrington kicking ball - and again, it's odd that people would feel this level of entitlement and ownership regarding another human being because they're supposedly well remunerated in their profession. In every job that you do it is in your own best interest to improve. It is my belief that Sancho should be criticised on his poor performances and supposedly lack of application in training - according to the manager - and not because he went to a party on his time off.
He only hass time off because hes so shit that southgate doesn't want to pick him. Thats not something he earnedLook at you all emotional because Sancho went to a birthday party "in NY!" in his time-off. Do you go to work and put him triple shifts on your days off or something?
Is the guy not allowed a life outside of Manchester United - all because he's paid a fortune?
Good point. Time off he has "earned" by being shit at his job.He only hass time off because hes so shit that southgate doesn't want to pick him. Thats not something he earned
Even Maguire is playing for England.
That Ole talk about scouting personalities and mental revolution ended up being a big mumbo jumbo bullshite. How did the club didnt know his behaviour history was insane.There were warning signs of his behaviour at Dortmund….we just chose to ignore them
I wish I can work like shit and got paid vacation on company's expense to Netherlands. He has time off now cause he's crap.He only hass time off because hes so shit that southgate doesn't want to pick him. Thats not something he earned
Even Maguire is playing for England.
I swear I did read these exact same words for Pogba back in the day.I've been thinking about how United seems to be like a graveyard for young talent. Regarding Sancho, I think he just arrives at United at the wrong time. I think if he went back to City, a well oiled machine team, he'd fare much better.
IMO, Sancho is not a leader, he's not a floor raiser. He's a ceiling raiser who can make good team better. He's the one who's gonna play better IF the other players played good. If the other players play bad, he's not going to be the one raising his game to change the game.
I think what Ten Hag is trying to do is improve the mentality of our players. Unfortunately we are shit in that area right now. We played worse when under pressure or adversity. Ten Hag is filtering the players who are mentally tough and can raise their game when the things go bad. Unfortunately Sancho is the one that got filtered out.
We can argue whether Ten Hag did it correctly to achieve that, but if United in the end end up with a team of mentally tough players then it's mission accomplished.
Probably true as we can say both have similar situations (excelled in a lesser league with well oiled team, crash and burn at United)I swear I did read these exact same words for Pogba back in the day.
I certainly have worked on weekends or days off before - voluntarily and enjoying it - when I felt highly responsible for a project or wanted to prove a point. And people who are self-employed do it all the time.Look at you all emotional because Sancho went to a birthday party "in NY!" in his time-off. Do you go to work and put him triple shifts on your days off or something?
Is the guy not allowed a life outside of Manchester United - all because he's paid a fortune?
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Good points! I have always believed a lot of our failed players would have looked great in a team like City or Liverpool. A shame that United has become this poisoned chalice.I've been thinking about how United seems to be like a graveyard for young talent. Regarding Sancho, I think he just arrives at United at the wrong time. I think if he went back to City, a well oiled machine team, he'd fare much better.
IMO, Sancho is not a leader, he's not a floor raiser. He's a ceiling raiser who can make good team better. He's the one who's gonna play better IF the other players played good. If the other players play bad, he's not going to be the one raising his game to change the game.
I think what Ten Hag is trying to do is improve the mentality of our players. Unfortunately we are shit in that area right now. We played worse when under pressure or adversity. Ten Hag is filtering the players who are mentally tough and can raise their game when the things go bad. Unfortunately Sancho is the one that got filtered out.
We can argue whether Ten Hag did it correctly to achieve that, but if United in the end end up with a team of mentally tough players then it's mission accomplished.
you should be asking why no well oiled machine was interested in buying Sancho. City in particular should have been interested in having back considering that he would have qualified as a homegrown talent. Yet they stirred away from him as if he had the plague.I've been thinking about how United seems to be like a graveyard for young talent. Regarding Sancho, I think he just arrives at United at the wrong time. I think if he went back to City, a well oiled machine team, he'd fare much better.
IMO, Sancho is not a leader, he's not a floor raiser. He's a ceiling raiser who can make good team better. He's the one who's gonna play better IF the other players played good. If the other players play bad, he's not going to be the one raising his game to change the game.
I think what Ten Hag is trying to do is improve the mentality of our players. Unfortunately we are shit in that area right now. We played worse when under pressure or adversity. Ten Hag is filtering the players who are mentally tough and can raise their game when the things go bad. Unfortunately Sancho is the one that got filtered out.
We can argue whether Ten Hag did it correctly to achieve that, but if United in the end end up with a team of mentally tough players then it's mission accomplished.