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Imagine being Jose. Imagine traveling to northern Norway in October for an European game. Temperature barely above freezing, snow, wind and rain...

...and then you get battered like that. On a scale of 1-10, how miserable is Jose right now?
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I’m delighted by the Roma score. I hate managers who turn up arrogant thinking they’ll destroy teams from smaller nations. Show a bit of respect.

Roma aren’t even that good so making all those changes deserved the 6-1. Hope they score again.
I also included Spurs in this. Another useless club incapable of winning anything who decide to rest players in European competition. For what? To finish top half in the EPL? Irrelevant clubs like this deserve the pumpings they get.
 

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Player for player Body Glimt should not even be able to win the Norwegian league to be honest. Their manager deserve most of the credit for what they've been doing the past couple of years. His philosophy and ability to implement it feels a lot like what Nils Arne Eggen did with Rosenborg when they reached the Champions League group stages 11 years in a row, and beat a pretty decent AC Milan at San Siro to reach the quarter final in 96/97.
 

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I also included Spurs in this. Another useless club incapable of winning anything who decide to rest players in European competition. For what? To finish top half in the EPL? Irrelevant clubs like this deserve the pumpings they get.
It’s such a weird cycle. They rest players in Europe to finish top half like you say which then means… they’ll qualify for the same tournaments they tried to rest players for? It makes zero sense.
 

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Player for player Body Glimt should not even be able to win the Norwegian league to be honest. Their manager deserve most of the credit for what they've been doing the past couple of years. His philosophy and ability to implement it feels a lot like what Nils Arne Eggen did with Rosenborg when they reached the Champions League group stages 11 years in a row, and beat a pretty decent AC Milan at San Siro to reach the quarter final in 96/97.
That’s interesting. Who is he? Do you think he’ll move to a bigger side in Europe?
 

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Player for player Body Glimt should not even be able to win the Norwegian league to be honest. Their manager deserve most of the credit for what they've been doing the past couple of years. His philosophy and ability to implement it feels a lot like what Nils Arne Eggen did with Rosenborg when they reached the Champions League group stages 11 years in a row, and beat a pretty decent AC Milan at San Siro to reach the quarter final in 96/97.
Well I only partially agree - they have a lot of good players. But yeah I would say Molde on paper is better. But Bjørkan, Berg, Solbakken, Botheim, Pellegrino, Saltnes - those are quality players
 

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I’m delighted by the Roma score. I hate managers who turn up arrogant thinking they’ll destroy teams from smaller nations. Show a bit of respect.

Roma aren’t even that good so making all those changes deserved the 6-1. Hope they score again.
They just played against Juve and their next game is against Napoli, by far the best team in the league this year. Resting players in this game makes sense, as they'll get through the group eventually anyway.

It's just the fact their team B got embarrassed like that is the hilarious part.
 

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Player for player Body Glimt should not even be able to win the Norwegian league to be honest. Their manager deserve most of the credit for what they've been doing the past couple of years. His philosophy and ability to implement it feels a lot like what Nils Arne Eggen did with Rosenborg when they reached the Champions League group stages 11 years in a row, and beat a pretty decent AC Milan at San Siro to reach the quarter final in 96/97.
It's even more impressive when you consider that they sold their entire record-breaking frontline from last season, but this is what having a good system and manager gets you.
 

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That’s interesting. Who is he? Do you think he’ll move to a bigger side in Europe?
Kjetil Knudsen. Doubt he'll move out of Norway or at least Scandinavia to be honest. Most likely destination seem to be Rosenborg eventually.

Well I only partially agree - they have a lot of good players. But yeah I would say Molde on paper is better. But Bjørkan, Berg, Solbakken, Botheim, Pellegrino, Saltnes - those are quality players
Sure they have some good talent, but I still think it's the system that gets the best out of them. Just look at how Jens Petter Hauge performed before he went to AC Milan for example. They also lost most of their best attacking talent since last season. They also obviously have no where near the resources of Molde and Rosenborg. Absolutely no one thought they were gonna win the league last season, and they literally walked it.

It's even more impressive when you consider that they sold their entire record-breaking frontline from last season, but this is what having a good system and manager gets you.
Yep, I agree.
 

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It’s such a weird cycle. They rest players in Europe to finish top half like you say which then means… they’ll qualify for the same tournaments they tried to rest players for? It makes zero sense.
It’s farcical. UEFA’s profit-motivated greed has in some way led to this.
 

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Spurs are an embarrassment. I don’t care what anyone says. Outside of the very top clubs, a trophy is a trophy.
 

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A gameweek where most favorites didn't give a feck. West Ham making it easy for themselves to rest players on last rounds.
 

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1 loss in 18 europe games from Ligue 1 teams, that didn't happen for.... a very long time. Nothing brilliant but it's worth noting because thursday nights have been terrible for years. Glad they take these games seriously now.
 

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They just played against Juve and their next game is against Napoli, by far the best team in the league this year. Resting players in this game makes sense, as they'll get through the group eventually anyway.

It's just the fact their team B got embarrassed like that is the hilarious part.
Only the group winner qualifies directly. 2nd place will play an additional play-off round. No point resting players in the autumn if it means you have to play two extra games during the winter.

I don't understand clubs like Roma and Spurs. Both won their last trophy in 2008. Both clubs are somewhat irrelevant in the bigger picture. Conference League is their level, they have to be honest about it. They need to work their way up by taking these competitions seriously.
 

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Only the group winner qualifies directly. 2nd place will play an additional play-off round. No point resting players in the autumn if it means you have to play two extra games during the winter.

I don't understand clubs like Roma and Spurs. Both won their last trophy in 2008. Both clubs are somewhat irrelevant in the bigger picture. Conference League is their level, they have to be honest about it. They need to work their way up by taking these competitions seriously.
Resting players in between two very tough games against two of the top teams in the league has a point. Napoli game is far more important game for Roma than tonight's one, and they still have 3 games left in the group anyway. I still think they'll lose against Napoli too but resting players here makes far more sense than taking your main team and running them to ground after playing against Juve and preparing for Napoli, the best team in the league at the moment.

As for the competition in general, this competition is shit, no matter how much we talk about winning trophies or not. It's a new competition for 3rd or 4th tier clubs, hardly anything worthy to proud of if they win it. It doesn't even have any privilege or history. Just a shit competition. Why should they focus on it more than focusing on securing qualification to better European trophies through the league next season ?

And it's not their level. They should be both Europe League teams.
 

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Resting players in between two very tough games against two of the top teams in the league has a point. Napoli game is far more important game for Roma than tonight's one, and they still have 3 games left in the group anyway. I still think they'll lose against Napoli too but resting players here makes far more sense than taking your main team and running them to ground after playing against Juve and preparing for Napoli, the best team in the league at the moment.

As for the competition in general, this competition is shit, no matter how much we talk about winning trophies or not. It's a new competition for 3rd or 4th tier clubs, hardly anything worthy to proud of if they win it. It doesn't even have any privilege or history. Just a shit competition. Why should they focus on it more than focusing on securing qualification to better European trophies through the league next season ?

And it's not their level. They should be both Europe League teams.
You’re describing the spiral these teams are caught in. The focus is always “we need to qualify for better competitions”. That’s all well and good… but then what? Neither Spurs nor Roma are good enough to win those better competitions. Neither team has any winning pedigree in the past 13-14 years.

The focus should be “we’re one of the favorites for this competition, let’s try and win it”.

Look at the likes of Atletico and Sevilla. While a lot of clubs were treating the Europa as a nothing tournament, these were busy trying to win it and instill some much needed winning mentality to their clubs.

Problem for Spurs and Roma is that a lot more clubs are taking the Europa more seriously nowadays so it’s becoming harder to win. But the good news for them is that there’s a brand new tournament this season and they’re the favorites for it. They should be using it as motivation to end their long trophy drought. Win it and use it as a stepping stone. You can then build on that.

Roma’s situation I can sort of understand. They won their first two games so could afford to rest players here in tricky conditions. Spurs I don’t get. Resting all these players in the only competition they can realistically win just so they can yet again go trophyless and at best finish 5-6th?
 

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You’re describing the spiral these teams are caught in. The focus is always “we need to qualify for better competitions”. That’s all well and good… but then what? Neither Spurs nor Roma are good enough to win those better competitions. Neither team has any winning pedigree in the past 13-14 years.

The focus should be “we’re one of the favorites for this competition, let’s try and win it”.

Look at the likes of Atletico and Sevilla. While a lot of clubs were treating the Europa as a nothing tournament, these were busy trying to win it and instill some much needed winning mentality to their clubs.

Problem for Spurs and Roma is that a lot more clubs are taking the Europa more seriously nowadays so it’s becoming harder to win. But the good news for them is that there’s a brand new tournament this season and they’re the favorites for it. They should be using it as motivation to end their long trophy drought. Win it and use it as a stepping stone. You can then build on that.

Roma’s situation I can sort of understand. They won their first two games so could afford to rest players here in tricky conditions. Spurs I don’t get. Resting all these players in the only competition they can realistically win just so they can yet again go trophyless and at best finish 5-6th?
You are comparing the conference league to Europe league. I agree that they should try and win the EL whenever they are in it but this new competition is just shit and no one really cares about, and it's definitely below their level (both were in EL last season and Roma was even semi finalist, they just had a shit league campaign). The league games are more important currently, especially at group stage. Also, winning it just gives you a ticket to EL next season, something both clubs should at least achieve through the league. Let's be honest, I didn't even know there are games played in it yesterday till I found people mocking Roma's results. It doesn't have any prestige or value as it stands.

As for that cycle they are going through, ultimately I think it's more important for 2nd or 3rd tier clubs to be around in big competitions than to just win minor, shitty competitions no one cares about. Playing consistently in CL or even EL gives you not just more money, but also far more experience playing against good teams rather than against teams no one even know their name is spelled. This competition is supposed to be for 4th tier clubs who can't play in Europe so they are given a chance to play against teams from other countries, Roma and Spurs shouldn't have been in it. Both should be in EL at the very least.

So yes, in my opinion, for both clubs finishing 5th or so is more important than winning a new competition for 4th tier clubs. Better for their future at least. Finishing 7th and winning this competition will be hardly considered a step forward for Spurs imo.
 

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What a team Bodø Glimt - even against an Italian top-side they look composed and threatening.
 

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Bodø-Glimt manager after fist half: "We're playing ok but not optimal, we need to improve our pressure". Up 1-0 vs a team worth a half Tammy Abraham
 

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I can’t stand Romero from Spurs. He is a nasty cnut. Playing the victim while fooling right, left and center. He is really dirty player.
 

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What's the difference between the Europa League and the Europa Conference League?
 

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I don't get why Leicester is down prioritising Europa League. They should have been one of the strongest outsiders, and this would be a big trophy for them