DomesticTadpole
Doom-monger obsessed with Herrera & the M.E.N.
Same here. So we don't really matter any more. They just want the new shiny fans.Tweet
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Genuinely feel a bit sick.
Same here. So we don't really matter any more. They just want the new shiny fans.Tweet
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Genuinely feel a bit sick.
100% correct. the legacy fan is dead. going to the stadium is dead. i want to ingest football live streamed on twitch. the chat window should take up half the page. a small window in the top right hand corner can show the game whilst the rest of the screen is dedicated to watching injured players open packs of pokémon cards.Tweet
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Don't be ridiculous. The point is that these teams have to earn their status as big clubs through results on the pitch. Not being relegated is an easy bar to stay over given the resources, but qualifying for the CL isn't.I think people enjoy the fantasy that Real, Juve, Bayern, MU, Liverpool, Arsenal, PSG could be relegated in the modern era... rather than the reality.
It's like the American illusion that if you compete hard enough and find a niche that you can defeat Amazon or Walmart in retail.
But I suppose keeping that illusion intact would make it much more palatable for fans who actually think the game is played on a level playing field.
The part in bold is clearly bollocks but don't let a rumour ruin a good story.The Glazer family has never "pumped money" into the club. The club was bought on debt with security against Glazers own holdings. That debt has been paid off by the club. The remaining debt is the debt that was secured against the clubs own assets.
The only thing they have allowed the club to do is invest its own money in its own operation, while being the only owners in our league that take money out of the club.
We're purely, and solely a investment for the owners. Where other clubs have owners that are at least part interested in success on the pitch, we have owners that are interested in financial success and to do reasonably well on the pitch to ensure the investment value increases.
Man, Joel Glazer even said he took years to understand offside. They don't even know the bloody sport.
Yeah sure, lets bend over backwards for Slavia Prague and Zenit St. Petersberg fans throwing bananas at players because FOOTBALL LEGACY!I was wondering how long it'd take for woke capitalism to rear its ugly head as an excuse.
I'm sure we can also improve diversity in the league by incorporating teams from Tokro, Beijing, Singapore, Delhi, New York, California, Houston, Kuala Lumpur and Dubai.
Oh indeedInstead of players simply walking on the pitch, this is how teams will be introduced.
Good grief.....Jet was hot!
It's over for us. It's all about attracting the young fans that don't understand history and traditions of the game.Same here. So we don't really matter any more. They just want the new shiny fans.
How dare teams grow organically and join the top dogs.Yeah you're right, how dare the best teams play the best teams. Disgraceful. I came here to see FC Cluj lose 7-0 to Barcelona and I'm not leaving until it happens
And this is why they're rich and we're all poor. They won't see the SL as an opportunity to make the bare minimum, they'll be looking at how the can make billions through sponsorships by winning the SL.As per the reports yesterday, an insignificant amount when compared to the money gained from being part of an elite 15 and the spend that would currently be required to compete with the top clubs.
The Glazers would unquestionably make more money underinvesting and finishing bottom of the SL than they would spending the money required to win or indeed consistently compete in the CL.
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You have to be trolling at this stage.No they haven't?
It's been less than a fecking day dude, and you've asked me this question 3 times in here already. Just fecking wait and we'll find out eventually won't we?1. Why do these 15 clubs get to automatically qualify because they are the top dogs at this moment? The time factor is the random variable here. Do this in 1995 and it may include Blackburn. Do this in 1980 and it may include Forest. These Super League clubs have secured their position for the foreseeable future.
2. Again, you are assuming that new teams get to join this exclusive group of clubs who automatically qualify. There is 0 indication of that so far.
The whole idea behind the ESL seems to drive down costs and drive up profits, so yes, there'll definitely be mechanisms to drive down costs, and for clubs, transfers and wages are the biggest costs.You will see parity mechanisms in the ESL to keep costs down, and help ensure competitiveness across the 15 clubs without the clubs having to overbid each other.
I'm just quoting a sports newspaper.This is just racist nonsense imo. Theres been rumours of a super league for decades now, the whole thing is led by Juve, Barca and Madrid ffs.
It makes perfect sense for them. Their biggest problem in squeezing as much money as possible out of the club is the competitive nature of the Premier League which means we frequently miss out on the Champions League cash cow. This solves that problem.Yeah of course it's the Glazer family that is behind this.
Didn't say they haven't done that. I said they haven't taken out more than Manchester United have spent which was what was impliedYou have to be trolling at this stage.
The Glazers haven't taken massive amounts of money out of the club?
Care to respond to my first point too?It's been less than a fecking day dude, and you've asked me this question 3 times in here already. Just fecking wait and we'll find out eventually won't we?
If you can buy yourself out of 18th, 19th or 20th... you can often buy yourself into 4th or 5th. There is a little element of chance... but it's mostly about money other than the occasional Leicester type miracle.Don't be ridiculous. The point is that these teams have to earn their status as big clubs through results on the pitch. Not being relegated is an easy bar to stay over given the resources, but qualifying for the CL isn't.
Yeah thats it, the super league is great because it is for some reason going to end discrimination. #ForTheFans #BLM #AbuDhabiCup2024Yeah sure, lets bend over backwards for Slavia Prague and Zenit St. Petersberg fans throwing bananas at players because FOOTBALL LEGACY!
Jeez if there is anything else they could do to destroy the PL it's adding Scottish football into it. Sent a shiver down me spine.This is probably the right time for Celtic and Rangers to join the Prem
Agree. Will there be breaks in the games every few minutes for a word from our sponsor. Will commentators have to advertise cures for erectile dysfunction? Cheerleaders, marching bands before games.It's over for us. It's all about attracting the young fans that don't understand history and traditions of the game.
Of course you can, what nonsense. Look at the NHL - not just a bunch of different states (all of whom set their own taxes, largely), but two different countries - Canada and the US. Come to think of it, the other NA major leagues have Canadian teams too.Absolutely no chance this happens, think of the various fiscal regimes between Spain/England/Italy etc.
You cannot do drafts like in the NBA when players are subjected to different tax rates.
They assume the fans want it and even alluded to it I think. Basically saying the fans could only say "yes"You'll notice all the statements are against UEFA and Fifa action. I've not seen one statement from them alluding to whether fans want it.
These owners don't give a shit about us. It's rage inducing.
Buy them from where? The other clubs will be miles behind, possibly fold.Why will it? As a fan of a club that's just doubled its income, will you be satisfied with a lack of recruitment and falling behind the other SL teams? Will that sit well with the Chelsea fan base?
Solidarity payments are payments to the ESL members only The non ESL clubs will not get a single penny. That 10bn seems helluva lot attractive for the 15 clubs right?What is the point with solidarity payments to clubs that no longer can compete, even in theory? 10 bn over 23 seasons.. that amounts to less than 0,5 bn per season divided between 2-300 clubs? Decided by which factors? Who places highest in the domestic leagues, or sells the most players to a Super League team?
As a Manchester United fan, I honestly don't care what happens to Leeds, or MK Dons, or Bromma Pojkarna. Do you think they'd give a shit it we went into administration? Why is it our responsibility to pay them?How dare teams grow organically and join the top dogs.
These 15 clubs have decided that they want to be the top dogs forever and feck the rest.
The part in bold is clearly bollocks but don't let a rumour ruin a good story.
I don't want to get into this in this thread. I don't agree with the model but perhaps there's a possibility the SL money could go towards paying off the debt? Thought about that?
Well, the point is still that you don't get the next level unless and until you've delivered the goods on the pitch.If you can buy yourself out of 18th, 19th or 20th... you can often buy yourself into 4th or 5th. There is a little element of chance... but it's mostly about money other than the occasional Leicester type miracle.
City fans will no doubt swarm us all at some point with their renewed mental gymnastics.
you have to be one of the worst posters I've ever seen on here, and that takes doing, well doneYeah you're right, how dare the best teams play the best teams. Disgraceful. I came here to see FC Cluj lose 7-0 to Barcelona and I'm not leaving until it happens
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15th and an EBITDA of 200% and increased drawings.People say the Glazers will spend less money... but they won't be able to hide when they are 15th in the SuperLeague instead of a weak 2nd in the EPL
If anything their weaknesses will be exposed and they will have to spend more to keep up with the other "super" teams.
It's a work in progress... so I reserve judgment until this actually plays out awhile... if indeed it does get off the ground.