Ok, you're wumming now.
Here is huge public wrath about this. People were not this angry even after we lost World cup against France.
It was objectively better (than Rim Tim Tagi Dim) in some of the things that the jury looks at, such as lyrics. But Croatia got a surprising amount of jury points anyway, that's a good sign. Norway got 40 jury points in 2019 with Spirit in the Sky, and then 291 televote points.
Wow, didn't know that.
Isn't it a same thing? Catchy high ritam song vs better vocal and lyrics?
"Viking" part is bloody awesome
Sami part, actually! But it's part of the Norwegian cultural heritage.
We like ships and singing, what can I say? Here are navy cadets returning home to Norway after a 3 month trip on a sailing ship. It's just a normal sea shanty though. We also like cultural appropriation.I said Viking because it reminded me on this;
I had this on repeat 1000 times
Well that was ...... something.
To me, the Croatian song felt like a bit of a Frankenstein's monster. Like, it was made up of all these bits and bobs I've heard and seen before, all cobbled together into a song or performance tailor-made for Eurovision. It just felt way too manufactured. On the other hand, the Swiss song seemed more focused and a lot tighter, sounded like it all fit together better. But hey, that's just my two cents - I'm hardly an expert on these things. If I'm honest, both songs and Eurovision as a whole are an insult to music.
Why?
@Amir fyi.
Fair enough.
Propaganda has always been important in any conflict.They can point to the support they have all over Europe when it's total bollox. It gives legitimacy to the disgraceful actions of govts who refuse to condemn a clear genocide and those who are actively funding it.
I have to say Israelis always had a lot of interest in the Eurovision, more than it warrants, probably because of this hunger to showcase our success worldwide.
If it started and ended with the rule breaking perhaps. But it hasn't. It's been textbook culture washing. The unified message the next day wasn't about coming fifth, it was "Look at the televote, Europe supports us". The singer herself actually melted away from the message of Europe supporting the country.
Well, the singer was just about the most innocent party here, so if she came out of it with a good feeling - good for her.
How does that relate to what I wrote?
She's also been posting about how she's going to go entertain soldiers, and that she can't wait to serve in the IDF.
Yes. So she is entirely on board with the culture washing aspect.
She was in the Eurovision because she won a reality show. Sure, she wanted to get famous - like just about any person who tried to be in the contest.
Army service is mandatory, and Israeli society does not tend to look positively on people who refuse that - let alone in a time or war. I don't know what she's thinking - but she's saying the only thing she can.
Well, at least that's what it looks like - and what we hear - from here.
And yet those are choices she made. There are people who choose otherwise.
It's very easy to live elsewhere and just expect someone in Israel to go against the flow and suffer the potential consequences.
I don't accept the argument that she had to do what she did or she would suffer consequences. It's not the same as you doing your service, as the consequences for you refusing would have been imprisonment. I am not asking her to refuse service. I am asking her not to actively promote it in the way she's doing. If that has some consequences on her future career as an artist, then honestly I don't care. Those aren't actual consequences. People are going to jail for their morals - those are consequences.
Do you realise that you almost never actually address the actual content of my posts when you reply to them?
She was living elsewhere - Russia. She tried to compete for them in junior Eurovision. Her being in Israel is a choice and everything that follows from that is also a choice.
Maybe it's because I simply do not understand what it is you're on about and why you're making such a big deal of it.
There's a very simple antidote to not understanding.
