They’re 5 points off 17th
Everton deducted 10 points for PSR breach (reduced to 6) | Deducted further 2 points for second breach
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
Dock those City cnuts 1150 points.
So Everton says they will appeal. I thought decisions made by the panel were not appealable?
These Premier League FFP rules are turning into an almighty mess.
Clubs taddling on each other in secret and public, new allegations of wrongdoing surfacing every other week, the Premier League's weak leadership being pulled in every direction.
Why the Premier League ever wanted to take the burden of responsibility away from UEFA for FFP is mind-boggling.
Clubs taddling on each other in secret and public, new allegations of wrongdoing surfacing every other week, the Premier League's weak leadership being pulled in every direction.
Why the Premier League ever wanted to take the burden of responsibility away from UEFA for FFP is mind-boggling.
Am I right in thinking the deduction could have happened last season? That's a silver lining at least. I still think they'll stay up but it's a big lifeline for Luton, Sheffield United and Burnley.
1,150 point deduction for City, right?
Are they worse than:
Sheffield
Luton
Burnley
my answer would be no, far far from it,
they’ll be absolutely fine
Sheffield
Luton
Burnley
my answer would be no, far far from it,
they’ll be absolutely fine
Can they appeal this?
Probably appealable within the same authority. No supreme authority to appeal to though.
It's a joke. PL has allowed City to cheat with impunity and are still handing down punishments to other clubs
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Relegate them down two leagues, if this is the punishment Everton got.
Can tell you now. feck all.
Yeah, if this had been in either of the past two seasons you'd be fecked.
Now you're actually decent and there are 4 very shit teams in the league, you'll be fine.
Shitty can teach Teflon Tony a thing or two! How they manage to avoid serious sanctions when everyone (including their non-deluded fans if they have any) knows their guilt.
Good, now go after chelsea and city
It’s the same logic behind the saying that if you owe your bank £100,000, you have problem, whereas if you owe your bank £100 million, the bank has a problem.
If they give City - the treble winners, the poster boys for the league - the punishment they obviously deserve, that will have serious ramifications for the league and English football. Whereas with Everton - who’s Everton?
They're fine they'll stay up. If I were city though I'd be fecking shitting it.
Good that there's a precedent set for big point deductions. Now apply that linearly to City and dock them 200 points that they have to work off season after season.
Everton wont be relegated either. They'll easily finish above Sheffield, Luton and Burnley.
Everton wont be relegated either. They'll easily finish above Sheffield, Luton and Burnley.
Absolutely disgusting to see a powerless club like Everton made an example of while City and Chelsea will almost certainly get away with it. I sometimes wonder why we all love such a corrupt sport so much.
you're making it sound like we are a tinpot club with no history.
Thing is, I don't actually think anyone gives a f*ck about City - which is itself part of the problem, people are generally apathetic towards them. Now, if it was us with 115 charges to our name, that'd be a different story.
Chelsea and Man United have already been fined for FFP stuff this season.
It's Man City's turn next.
So "new deduction of points punishment" bounce for them next match then. Typical for us.
yeah agreed although isn’t it suggested you need CL football due to FFP ?
Not at all. They'll be fine. The promoted teams are that bad that one win gets them out of the relegation zone. Good season to take a 10 pointer.
Also going by this precedent then City and Chelsea are gonna be relegated several leagues right and have to hand back all their ill gotten gains?
Ah makes sense. Curious as to what would change, I'm sure Everton has provided all the evidence possible.
This is their version of condemning us to a new manager bounce effect without the need for sacking.
And Chelsea have been caught out before and transfer banned.
There’s likely more punishment due following the news the past few days too.
Yeah, and they are.
"Everton Football Club is both shocked and disappointed by the ruling of the Premier League’s commission.
“The club believes that the commission has imposed a wholly disproportionate and unjust sporting sanction. The club has already communicated its intention to appeal the decision to the Premier League. The appeal process will now commence and the club’s case will be heard by an appeal board appointed pursuant to the Premier League’s rules in due course.
“Everton maintains that it has been open and transparent in the information it has provided to the Premier League and that it has always respected the integrity of the process. The club does not recognise the finding that it failed to act with the utmost good faith and it does not understand this to have been an allegation made by the Premier League during the course of proceedings. Both the harshness and severity of the sanction imposed by the commission are neither a fair nor a reasonable reflection of the evidence submitted.
“The club will also monitor with great interest the decisions made in any other cases concerning the Premier League’s profit and sustainability rules. Everton cannot comment on this matter any further until the appeal process has concluded"
“The club believes that the commission has imposed a wholly disproportionate and unjust sporting sanction. The club has already communicated its intention to appeal the decision to the Premier League. The appeal process will now commence and the club’s case will be heard by an appeal board appointed pursuant to the Premier League’s rules in due course.
“Everton maintains that it has been open and transparent in the information it has provided to the Premier League and that it has always respected the integrity of the process. The club does not recognise the finding that it failed to act with the utmost good faith and it does not understand this to have been an allegation made by the Premier League during the course of proceedings. Both the harshness and severity of the sanction imposed by the commission are neither a fair nor a reasonable reflection of the evidence submitted.
“The club will also monitor with great interest the decisions made in any other cases concerning the Premier League’s profit and sustainability rules. Everton cannot comment on this matter any further until the appeal process has concluded"
Is it? I mean they're 2 points off Luton in 17th.
I quite enjoyed our transfer ban last time. I wouldn't mind another.
Fantastic news 
Wishful thinking on my part.....
They will appeal and probably get the deduction reduced to 8 points.
2 points.They’re 5 points off 17th
They're all very poor but they all actually have winnable games coming up. Sheffield United got Bournemouth and Luton at home and Burnley away all up to boxing day so straight away huge six pointers there so one team in the bottom area will get 2-3 wins in next two months imo.
Everton will be hoping that's Bournemouth pulling away from the bottom.
10 points deduction is same as if you go into administration so I can only guess the panel think they dodged admin by the "creative accounting" with their FFP accounts during covid period so have slapped them with it now but this feels very much like an appeal they'll just keep lodging with independent courts if that's allowed?
They'll literally never get relegated no matter what happens
Would be a less stressful period I’m sure and force some stability. Todd would go crazy having to shut his chequebook for a window