Strikes me as them being scared this will lead to a momentum shift.
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Their head would explode and internet would be broken watching Senna/Prost race in Suzuka that day
max’s biggest error was giving lewis the inside line, should have made him go around the outside.
Its harder to make the apex on the inside to be honest. The outside line is the best line into the corner especially with the racing line.
Wouldnt be suprised if Hamilton wins the champioship. RB seem rattled
Max is one of the most aggressive drivers and has been at fault for numerous incidents in his career. He chose to be aggressive defending with a 35 point lead in the championship and came off second best.
Reverse the roles and there’s zero chance Max reacts any different to Hamilton, and there’s zero chance those dressed in orange aren’t celebrating massively.
They were teammates as well. Now teammates are nit allowed to race. Good times it was back then.
Truer words have never been spoken.
I can imagine Senna especially winding folks up
Agree, but Red Bull kicking off like Two narcissistic parents won't help Max learn from his small mistakes. Even throughout Merc dominance even I want hard fair driving. My opinion with Max it seems just hard racing.
Could work well and drive them on more, or like you said could be cracking under the pressure.
Lewis does seem to have fair bit of luck on his side so though, always need that to win things.
Yeah its a shame that.
Its not luck with Lewis. You cant be that lucky
He wouldn't have done so because his ego is too big to accept getting passed. Any normal driver that has a faster car will not risk getting burned on lap 1 with such aggressive and reckless driving
No I think Max still wins, but it will be closer.
I can see the same happening again, next time could be Max that carries on or both out.
I would still be putting mmy mortgage on Verstappan winning. The Red Bull is clearly the superior car, have People forgotten the previous 2 races? They are at least 0.5 seconds faster.
Red Bull and Verstappan Will win this year.
Red Bull and Verstappan Will win this year.
Fantastic drive from Lewis.
Re the incident - neither Max (hope he's ok), nor Lewis were going to give way. Both pushing for it, both born racers. Something bound to happen.
As for Horner - he reminds me every time he opens his mouth why dislike him so much. Toto had the right answer when they asked if he would call him - per Toto, no he's going to have hamburgers with his team
Overall exciting race.
Re the incident - neither Max (hope he's ok), nor Lewis were going to give way. Both pushing for it, both born racers. Something bound to happen.
As for Horner - he reminds me every time he opens his mouth why dislike him so much. Toto had the right answer when they asked if he would call him - per Toto, no he's going to have hamburgers with his team
Overall exciting race.
I thought back to that - and all of Schumacher's moves. It used to happen far more.
It was great driving to be honest and what most fans want to see. Hardly reckless but either driver at that. Otherwise why watch F1. Only issue seemed to be Hamilton catching some understeer which was unfortunate.
Not all luck no, car is well built and he's an amazing driver. But he does have luck on his side, comes out clean out of that incident and no retirement is years requires luck
Come on every driver has some luck, but to say Lewis's aways needs luck to win, that's just
He actually moved to the middle and gave Hamilton the outside line. It was Hamilton that then opted to go further inside, but that them leaves him really tight to take the corner. If it's a corner with braking then it's advantage Hamilton from there, except its not and you need to start wide to take it properly.
From Hamilton's perspective to make that move stick like that you need to get really ahead before the turn-in point so that you can actually start to move towards the middle of the track and not try and take it from such a shallow angle. That's my overall issue with it and why I put the blame mainly on Hamilton, because what he went for just isn't a doable move. You can't compare to the moves on Leclerc and Norris because in those instances the cars in front stayed outside and Hamilton was able to be inside but towards the middle of the track, giving him a more viable angle to take the corner from.
Verstappen is destroying his teammate again while Hamilton is struggling to get more than 1 tenth on replacement driver Bottas. The cars have been closely matched from the beginning of the seasan and the RBR had progressed a bit more, but unless you believe Bottas is a great driver, there's no reason to believe the RBR is the better car. It's obvious that Verstappen did a much better job outside his speed, not making stupid mistakes like Hamilton, not having the incredible luck of Hamilton, but being very unlucky twice instead.
I've never been much of a Verstappen fan because I can't stand the stupidity of hypes and fanboyism and proper sport journalism being sacrificed. That's in the Netherlands too but not as stupid, and Hamilton is hyped there too. All the times I've heard that Hamilton is brilliant for only just beating Bottas and so many times I've heard that Hamilton made a very rare mistake, I started to believe they must be extremely rare. But I have to admit that Verstappen has matured as a driver and the way he keeps embarassing his teammates lately is very impressive. Hamilton has only become more childish and less impressive over his teammate, while starting to make a lot of mistakes when he's finally under pressure.
To become the greatest Verstappen has an awful lot of work to do. Hamilton is not even near greatness because you have to take a team and a car up a level. We racing fans all know his stats are down to the best team with the best car in F1 history and weak teammates.
Allthough many Dutch overidolize Verstappen, but they will know a lucky win from a brilliant drive and treat it as such, and Verstappen won't blow his own trumpet over lucky wins either. That sense of entitlement, the idea that being English makes you deserve luck and leniant stewards is typically English.
He's been getting on people's nerves with his self glorification after easy and/or lucky wins, his hypocrisy and BLM moaning doesn't go down that well either, but as a driver he had massive respect.
No, you misunderstood what I meant, maybe poorly worded, but I said you need luck on your side to things, in almost every sport, which he does have.Come on every driver has some luck, but to say Lewis's aways needs luck to win, that's just
Lewis for me is GOAT, even though I'm not a fan of his.
This thread is fascinating. I never watch F1, but following the season through this thread is quite exciting.
This......he needs to learn to be patient and more importantly when to be patient.
And teammate that is not allowed to race. F1 really needs to fix that or just have one driver in each team. No team should be allowed to have team orders.
I follow F1 through Drive to Survive, this episode will be tasty.
I don't have a dog in this fight, I think they're both twats.
not when defending it isn’t. you aren’t thinking about the apex in a situation like that, you have to make it as difficult for your opponent as you can, forcing lewis wide would have meant he either had to back off or risk running off the track to make the overtake.
allowing him to take the dominant inside position meant he then had to end up running wider, instead he chose to stay tight and got caught.
I think it just shows their true colours.
I think it's mainly down to the fact F1 has not been competitive in a long time and this season is close. Also, Hamilton is a divisive figure for some.
Its a corner with no breaking is the point I think you’re missing
Jaysus what a post this one. And the bolded part? Wtf? You are the hypocrite one mate.
Some of my mates are huge Verstappen fans. I love winding them up.
Verstappen comes across as a bit of an arrogant little dude, though I guess that might come with the territory.I have no clue about Lewis Hamilton beyond the fact that he's an extremely successful F1 driver. The insane tribalism on show here is just fun to read. It rivals the Messi Ronaldo conundrum.
If positions were reversed and Hamilton was in the faster car and comfortably ahead in the championship there’s no chance he does what verstappen did - he’d yield. Max will learn from that as he has from his earlier days when he was ridiculously aggressive. I say that as someone who has no skin in the game here - I think they’re both fantastic drivers and find some of the insults in here ridiculously childish.
Right ok… if his BLM stance is getting on peoples nerves. Those people obviously have some issues
Absolutely. The Red Bull is too fast for Mercedes to catch this season. The rule change this season favoured Red Bull by design. Funny how the Max/Red Bull fans don't talk about "luck" regarding the rule changes.
Ok fair enough, agreed you do need some luck on your side.
Great Post.Don't think you have that right fella...
But objective evidence won't be accepted by the red bull lot. Why accept reality when you can complain about Hamilton and a racing incident.
Good point. I've watched the previous drive to survive. When will this seasons come out?