Yes Checo did well to be fair and helping Max in qualifying. Fair fecks to him.
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sorry but the majority could not give a monkeys,
the crowds will be there next season same as always.
The rules / regulations in F1 have been inconsistent at best for many years.
Senna, a hero to many won a world title through cheating.
Worse than this episode in my opinion.
Exactly. We’re all being given the Hollywood treatment here, especially from the FIA. They couldn’t have dreamed for a bigger ending than that which will live on into next season regardless of whether he comes back.
Arguing pro Max or Lewis is a bit of a moot point and a waste of energy for everyone. They were both fantastic and overall Max probably deserved it (based on race wins, laps lead etc.) but certainly wasn’t going to win it until that intervention in the last 5 laps.
I really like Lewis as a person. I think he’ll come back if the new car is competitive and he’ll get the 8 and it’ll be even more Hollywood that he finally smashed the record and a whole new generation will have been sucked into F1.
Very true. Several posters in this thread would genuinely try and tell you that Max is a dirtier driver than Schumacher and Senna. Can only presume none of them have actually watched F1 live before 2014.
All the best champions, Max, Alonso and Hamilton included, were and are masters of racecraft. And racecraft isn't always fair and clean, and nor should it be. Some people seem to want F1 sanitised to insane levels so it turns into purely an engineering event rather than a competitive individual sport, as if it wasn't enough of an engineering showpiece already.
It doesn't really bode well for how they'll handle next season when the cars are supposedly going to be a lot closer together and allow for more aggressive moves.
I watched the race and saw the incident. You are not showing me anything I haven't already seen.
WWE also attracted big crowds.
Then don't say Lewis was ahead, when he clearly wasn't.
Going into the corner he was.
Checo's bit of defending was the best piece of driving all race. How can anyone hate that? He legitimately made the race exciting. Great stuff.
Oh give over with the scripted bullshit. If Latifi didn't crash, what would the script have been then?
How do you know that the majority could not give a monkeys?
You quoted a post which said it with the exact reply “Exactly”
Some guy on internet is making ridiculous post like yours saying verstappen only lost because hamilton took him out on Silverstone. Commiserations
I’m going for a left field take here. I actually think this is benefitting Hamilton’s legacy. Yes 8 would take him past Schumacher. But, if there was always something which held Lewis back from a likeability perspective it was always his perceived arrogance and lack of sportsmanship. Heck, I didn’t like him for a long time.
In the context of what he’s trying to do now, from race equality in the sport, creating a platform for young minority children to have a shot, being seen as a role model. In a bizarre way, the way he’s carried himself after the race will cement him with a legacy that far exceeds what the 8th title would have.
He might walk away now. He might not. I don’t know. But in some ways being the “victim” here will have changed his image drastically to everyone who isn’t a huge Max fan. From neutrals to even less hardcore Max fans, his standing has taken a significant boost. Good for him.
In the context of what he’s trying to do now, from race equality in the sport, creating a platform for young minority children to have a shot, being seen as a role model. In a bizarre way, the way he’s carried himself after the race will cement him with a legacy that far exceeds what the 8th title would have.
He might walk away now. He might not. I don’t know. But in some ways being the “victim” here will have changed his image drastically to everyone who isn’t a huge Max fan. From neutrals to even less hardcore Max fans, his standing has taken a significant boost. Good for him.
The race I watched Sunday was very much influenced by the stewards to make it "entertaining". They do not even claim otherwise. The same has been true for much of this season, which has left us with many baffling decisions. Maybe scripted is the wrong word, maybe tempered suits it better. It was influenced from the outside from people who believe they can artificially create something that is better than racing.
As a casual viewer I've noticed lots of whining about Horner but I can't help but love his sly digs and shithousing remarks.
I actually dislike him less than Toto who seems like a genuine arsehole. Both are just a bit special and very competitive though.As a casual viewer I've noticed lots of whining about Horner but I can't help but love his sly digs and shithousing remarks.
Never knew F1 was such a handbags out sport.
Well before I entered the caf F1 thread anyway.
Please Kirk. Kirk please.
Your post lacks taste. Toto is a true and utter gentleman while Christian and Marko are utter a'holes.
There both arseholes, toto does seem like a primadonna though with all his antics and playing up for the camera the whole time, the hammerheads don’t like it when you call there toto an arsehole do they.
the thing is you have to be an arsehole to be at the top of this sport
Toto is a prick.
Toto isn't even his real name. I will never forgive him for that.
He truly is.
West and with Lewis? I don't get it.
Both principals can be abrasive, but the difference between them is clear when looking at the treatment of their drivers.
Horner enabled and encouraged the very worst side of Max and Seb, the former of whom stormed off the podium a couple of weeks ago while the latter has seemed like a genuinely cool person since leaving Red Bull. He's also been utterly brutal towards the second drivers he's been in charge of.
Toto meanwhile forced Lewis to learn some humility, to the point that he was able to show a remarkable amount of graciousness despite being the victim of one of the biggest robberies in F1.
They both love the camera, and talking smack, but Horner is in a league of his own when it comes to sleaze, slime, and general awfulness.
Horner enabled and encouraged the very worst side of Max and Seb, the former of whom stormed off the podium a couple of weeks ago while the latter has seemed like a genuinely cool person since leaving Red Bull. He's also been utterly brutal towards the second drivers he's been in charge of.
Toto meanwhile forced Lewis to learn some humility, to the point that he was able to show a remarkable amount of graciousness despite being the victim of one of the biggest robberies in F1.
They both love the camera, and talking smack, but Horner is in a league of his own when it comes to sleaze, slime, and general awfulness.
I like Toto, and he plays well to the camera. But it's easy to be the nice guy when you win everything with no challenge from anywhere.
First championship he has to work for in 8 years and he's smashing headphones left right and centre and demanding no safety cars to the race director when there are marshals on the track. Calling in the sleaziest of lawyers before a tyre has even hit the tarmac.
First championship he has to work for in 8 years and he's smashing headphones left right and centre and demanding no safety cars to the race director when there are marshals on the track. Calling in the sleaziest of lawyers before a tyre has even hit the tarmac.
Dani Ric was/is a master of the dive bomb. He just has a less punchable face so probably more palatable when he does it i guess
We stand with Lewis
that’s my opinion too. i have a slight allegiance to lewis as he is british and has a good backstory but i would much rather work for wolff than horner. i’ve already compared them to fergie and mourinho. both command respect for what they’ve achieved, but i know which one i’d rather nail my colours to.
It's also worth noting that Vettel didn't exactly set the world alight since leaving Red Bull. Mostly the car, yes, but a mentality shift. Ever since Riccardo unsettled him.
Perez didn't do anything wrong, no informed Hamilton fans believe that. Lewis will think the same looking back, all drivers say things in the heat of battle. I would have loved if Bottas could have assisted Lewis like that just once this season.
Tbh, I think Vettel's performances in his last season at RB and all the seasons since have probably revealed his true level: a decent driver, but probably not one you'd look back and think "yeah, one of the greats" that his 4 WCs would suggest.
Silverstone is not comparable with the final race debacle. It is disingenuous to compare a racing incident which got penalised with a race director going rogue to manipulate the race outcome.
Again, I would urge anyone to look at this without considering the "Lewis vs Hamilton" angle, it is irrelevant, it could have been any two drivers going for the championship. Putting any rivalries aside, they can't let this happen again in F1.
Money well spent by Toto.
No it hasn't actually. That's the thing. If you came on here, you'd think the world is coming to an end. While most people outside of this forum (and maybe the UK), accept it was a poor decision but also realise that there were a lot of poor decisions in this race and beyond it as well. In the end, Max won a deserving championship.Fixed.
Facepalm.
What fecking kind of first name is Torger anyway?