Well if that was their plan it's back-fired spectacularly. It seems that we have a massive need for a midfielder right up until the point we need to actually get the cheque-book out. I wonder if there's anybody at Barca wondering how much £40m might have helped them sign Luiz and any other targets they're after...
Fabregas
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Well that much is obvious, the caf is like a scene from Mary Poppins.
As I went through in the rest of the post, there's no way any team doesn't sell a non-first choice player for that sort of money. Just no way. Unless they've made a serious misjudgment as per psychdelicblues' post above, in which case it looks like it's them not us that have dropped a bollock...
...Though that would also raise the possibility of it not being over yet **slaps self across the face and shouts "get a grip man"**
I think the price they'd have sold him for prior to Thiago leaving was probably less than it is now (as an aside, if Fabregas was our first choice, why did we go after Thiago, knowing that if he left Fabregas was less likely to? Buying both was surely going to be next-to-impossible). As it is, I reckon they know they're one injury away from him being one of their main men in midfield.
I mixed up your posts - thought you had edited this one.
Anyway, this is what I think as well.
I wouldn't be so sure; the fee isn't significantly more than what they paid and they'd be selling for around about what he's worth.
Fabregas is also a lot more important to Barca than people depict, even more now with Xavi aging and the fact they've lost Thiago.
Surprised this thread is still so lively. Drop it lads - surely? Let's not make Ronaldo-day anymore painful than it is
Chin up, lad - still (nearly) three hours left of R-Day!Surprised this thread is still so lively. Drop it lads - surely? Let's not make Ronaldo-day anymore painful than it is
I think we'll be debating the Fabregas saga (and the subplot of the Thiago affair) for a while yet. We're in uncharted waters still with Moyes and Woodward - and this story has sides to it that are interesting to both muppets and more sober folk. I for one would be very interested to know precisely what transpired here - and I don't usually care that much about the business side of things, not in terms of transfers in and out at least.
This is shaping up to be a very disappointing summer
Can we forget this thread ever happened?
If I was a modmin I'd lock the hell out of it.
Come to think of it that is probably why I'm not a modmin...
If I was a modmin I'd lock the hell out of it.
Come to think of it that is probably why I'm not a modmin...
Understatement of 2013 right there
I've had a cracking summer, never done so much swimming or fishing in one year.
you're only swimming cause you're so shit at fishing though.
either way, it's all good.
It's only the Daily Star but:
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/331427/David-Moyes-final-bid-for-Cesc-Fabregas
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/331427/David-Moyes-final-bid-for-Cesc-Fabregas
So despite the statement Daily Star thinks we will make a third bid, whatever sells them papers I guess.
I believe that was the question asked.
feck me, am I on RAWK?
Ruud10 cracks me up sometimes.Ryan meet Ruud.
It's fecking annoying to say the least. If Fabregas is the main target we couldn't have time it any worse.
If we went in early Barca might be more willing to consider selling Fab as they will then get to keep Thiago since they can promise him more games. At the very least they would have the options of selling Cesc for 40 million and keeping Thiago.
If we went in early Barca might be more willing to consider selling Fab as they will then get to keep Thiago since they can promise him more games. At the very least they would have the options of selling Cesc for 40 million and keeping Thiago.
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Thats the biggest pile of crap i've read
never serious about bringing in Fabregas? To what end?? what would the point of that be? Think about what you're saying, why would we do that?
Thats the biggest pile of crap i've read
never serious about bringing in Fabregas? To what end?? what would the point of that be? Think about what you're saying, why would we do that?
That's too much to ask for from him , geebs.
uh oh have we got some depressed people in here?
I'm glad this embarrassing Garry Cook style chase for Fabregas is, at last, over. From fairly early on the whole effort to buy Fabregas has struck me as an attempt by the powers that be to prove there's 'life after Fergie' by making a 'statement' in the transfer market. Its good that we are now able to put the whole thing behind us.
Depressed - and embarrassed. Especially the latter, it would seem. Could we do a RAWK style auto-correct thing? Automatically change "embarrassing" to...I don't know, "GO FELLAINI, GO!" for instance. Or "embarrassed" to "angry, hungry and confused"?
This is the part I can't get my head around. Like you said, we should've moved earlier for Cesc. Instead, it appears that we turned to him as a face-saving gesture for missing out on Thiago (the more sinister, conspiratorial thought would be that we really wanted neither of them, and the Cesc saga was purely to appease fans worried about club finances.)
Cesc isn't being truthful
He's got a point in a way. If the club were uber serious then they should have made an offer truly worthy of consideration. At the end of the day it would appear they have spent weeks flogging a dead duck. If Cesc was keen on a move then surely United would just pay what Barcelona required? The only snag would be if Barcelona simply do not wish to sell. Maybe that is the crux of it all.
Waste of time all in all, and anyone who doesn't think United look a bit daft is kidding themselves. If this was City we would be having a good old guffaw.
I'm still thinking this has got legs. Well perhaps only one leg but it's better than no legs.
He'll be a Manchester United player by September 3rd.
For sure. That said, its different to city bidding for Kaka and getting turned down. That was a club with new found wealth assuming that's all it took to get a top player. Here, am certain we've been played by Fabregas and his team.
One leg and no crutches
Okay, seen kissing the badge as he appears in Kuala Lumpur for open-field training. That is it, lads.
Some thickos in this thread
Ruud10 and the entertainment continues...
and the entertainment continues...So this thread is still open, is it back on or something?
This is the bit I fail to understand some peoples mentality on.
WHY is is a waste of time to try and sign a world class player? You will probably say "because we didnt sign him" but sure if you dont try, you will never get!
WHY is it "a bit daft" to persue players of the likes of Fabregas? Should we just let Barca and Real Madrid walk over the transfer markets doing the same thing and not attempt to do the same thing ourselves?
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