He wasn't offloaded, Real came in for him on loan and he wanted to join them. He was decent last year. During Lampards first year he made similar basic errors to Onana now, that he didn't under Sarri or at Bilbao. Confidence got destroyed.
Hes def not your classic aesthetic on the eye goalkeeper.
Dean Henderson must be something special considering he was able to come in and look a decent as a kid with no European experience, playing behind Maguire and Lindelof.
Did he? I just remember blunders and average performances. People wanted him to be a lot better than he was sadly.
Still nowhere near the disaster Onana has been so far
If Chelsea's desperate to keep him as long term GK, he would not be allowed to go out on loan. There is clearly intention from Chelsea to offload him.
Flawed logic. Karius started in CL final and made legendary inexcusable basic mistakes. It's not one off. He showed signs. Klopp was too hipster at the time.
I agree with this but I believed in DDG because I believed in SAF and didn't believe he'd make a mistake like that. I was confident DDG would come good because the manager thought he would. I've no confidence in the people recruiting the players now.
So is the new narrative that Onana is too fat?
Onana performed much better than Karius in the CL final. With a worse team, wouldn’t you say?
It was a team of 11 that got to that final, not 1 man. It is conceivable that they didn't let him get as many one on one situations.
He had a concussion.
Yeah Henderson was decent for us. Saved shots that should've been saved, and swept up balls that De Gea normally didn't. Which was about the only thing I'd hoped from a De Gea replacement.
Not either or though is it its just a difference of priorities in those attributes for the manager, ie with that new keeper you expect a downgrade on DDG at his peak (whos job it is for the scouts to determine how much) but not for him to look like O'Shea in goal that kind of compromise isn't normal Liverpool and City certainly didn't go through it. Really should have got that guy at Porto.
Seen a lot of the goalkeeper whose name you can't even remember to make that statement, have you?
Course not but i am not a scout there was clearly a decision being made between the two and would trust them more than ETH at this point his transfers are gash.
At least it seems that Costa can save. But we have already wrongly decided on hands of butter Onana.
EtH says it's all good, he used to play for Ajax.
I am not saying Onana is bad. Just simply responded to previous point that players playing in European Cup final, are all flawless in their skillset.
Playing in Italy with a strong defence and the slower pace of the league which suited him. Jury is still out, but so far it’s not looking good.
This is the Caf, you are asking for impossible.
The problem is that his horror moments will be amplified, because he plays in a side that struggle mightily to score goals. If we could consistently get 3-4 goals in our home games against the leagues weaker sides, it wouldn't be such a problem. But for a team scoring between 0-2 goals, it's a massive problem to have such an error prone keeper.
To be fair, Henderson looked a lot better than Onana has so far.
If people actually looked at him, he was heavily criticised for shouting at Harry preseason, then ripped apart for the Wolves penalty area challenge. He's then made a few errors and now looks like he's out of form. So at a time where he needs support it's sadly lacking. He was very good last season and to think he's no longer that player is just insane. He'll come good and should be given support from the fan base.
That’s a good point. We’re not taking advantage of his strengths and highlighting his limitations through our play
Mate, I doubt any fan wanted United to sign a keeper who "wasn't good at saving shots"!
Not only our GK coaches but the Scouting team must have had an input and the whole coaching team at Ajax must have given him feedback on how good he is and his strengths and weaknesses. That must be 10-20 plus pros with direct knowledge of his game and he just ignored them all and his own eyes when he coached him. Baffles the fk out of me. He must have known exactly what he was getting before we signed him. So why did he do it? Its as if he can't get out of the small club mentality where they can only target players that the big clubs wont touch. So they take a risk on players that are have really good skills in some areas but are fundamentally flawed in others. Its like he's building a home for unloved footballers.
