I don't think Lindelöf will surpass Jones either. Actually, Jones and Bailly are one of the best defensive partnerships in the league right now, but the caf is very fickle - Jones has gone from being a hero (and the third highest rated player here behind DDG and Pogba) to a pariah pretty much overnight after Spurs.
1. It has nothing to do with Smalling, its a discussion about Blind and Lindelof in a thread about Lindelof so tell me who's obsessed smarty pants?
Not saying you're wrong or Lindelof is good or anything. The thing is Blind rarely played CB nowadays which the amount of duel he needs to do is evidence. The type of players he had to compete should be easier for him than dealing with known physical central forwards.
I'm not trying to make this about Smalling. I have just seen you throw around stats like this before and I found it funny. Also the stats do not consider the opposition and do not take into account that Blind hasn't really played CB. For all we know he could be challenging 5 ft 5 wingers instead of 6ft strikers.
So Real Madrid never lose to small teams then? I take it you must have missed the game the other night.
Lindelof himself has played as a RB for United and not exclusively at CB, so I guess there's isn't enough evidence so far. Lindelof's stats are far from impressive in this regard though. I actually like Lindelof but the jury is still out for me.
Hardly Sky sports brainwashing. A team that is hardly challenged has a higher margin for error. Yes Real lose to small teams but its rare. Espanyol just beat them for the first time in a decade and Espanyol are La Liga regulars.
That's the CAF and fans in general. Jones is fit right now and not getting games. I don't believe the dude is sick, Mourinho seems to have lost confidence in him after the Newcastle game and his giving Lindelof some game time. That's just my opinion. Jones has missed 73 games in the last four seasons, that's almost two whole seasons of league games! Rojo has missed 71 in the same time. The very definition of unreliable those two.
Im sorry but I don't understand what you're trying to say here. 'Sloppy' period or not, it becomes a part of his record. Pressure is fine but a quality CB should be winning the vast majority of their aerial duels outright.
What I meant is the circumstances forced him into the team when he was not ready. He was not in his best condition and not even trusted to play in PL when he started to rake in these terrible stats. He even doesn't look like a proper player for small teams let alone in our teams who fight for result. As I said, No doubt Lindelof ain't impressive aerially. It's his record, so I don't argue. However, as you agree yourself in another post, it's early days to draw any conclusion.
Sensible post, but I have to ask, what makes you think he wasn't ready or what conditions had to be in place for him to be ready? He's a professional who was bought to improve our defense or give the manager another option. I'll say he wasn't bought to be an immediate starter but neither was Bailly but he adapted to English football very quickly, maybe unexpectedly. A professional who is physically 100% fit to play is ready so what makes you think Lindelof wasn't?
Such hilarious things being said on a Lindelof thread. Any reason why?
I don't understand why you are laughing at him. Blind is not just better but considerably better than Lindelof from what we have seen so far.Eh except he’s not?
Why’s that post hilarious? It’s his opinion and a perfectly valid one. Smalling has had good spells but in general we should’ve been doing better over the years.
Those stats seem stupid
How so?
Hilarious of him to suggest that Lindelof showed more leadership than Smalling in that game. In what ways did he show more leadership? Smalling has held Lindelof's hand when he was settling in and stinking up the place. Smalling even saved Lindelof's bacon when he passed the ball back to De Gea under pressure and gave it away. If not for Smalling's last ditch intervention Chelsea would've probably equalized. @UnitedForever123
I said few times in Lindelof performance thread. I think he is slow starter each season and at new clubs which I compared to that of Carrick to certain level. They are a type who gel with the teams than lifting the team. To do so they need time to understand the players around them. PL physicality ain't a thing to underestimated. Not every players would adapt fast enough and different managers confirmed some players would need more time. Unlike Bailly who is athletically freak, Lindelof is rather weak than PL average. He has no leeway as to just play game but bid his time training with the team. Which Mourinho also confirmed as such.
Is Pepe in Real’s team now? No, so what a ridiculous come back.
So far, you are spot on.
You must mean you don’t like these stats because they don’t support your argument?
Is Jones injured? I thought it was just JM benching him.
They're pathetic stats. Look at the sample size.
What a useless sample size tbh. Nothing’s statistical with those stats.
Think his performances answer this @Loublaze he like many other players needed time to adapt. Not saying he looks great as I have serious reservations about him but he’s doing better.
Showing more leadership than Smalling! That takes the biscuit! You can shout and point as much as you like but you've got to sweep the shit off your own doorstep first.
To say that is an insult to Chris Smalling! You obviously can't see the player, at present, is out of his depth and you should be praising Smalling for carrying him through games. A player in his situation is looking for cheap points by trying to show some sort of authority out on the pitch and you take the bait.
I'm laughing. My God you're pathetic.
At least you took the trouble to say something instead of just posting that stupid, idiotic, little green figure.I'm laughing. My God you're pathetic.
I think he's injured as he hasn't even been in the last couple of squads.
Tbh I shouldn't have to clarify what I mean to someone who answers like you do. However I'll make an exception: What I'm saying is he's fishing for points. I don't blame him for that. Pointing and shouting isn't something I would take into consideration when judging a player's contribution or even when comparing him with others. Players such as Smalling, show their authority in other ways, through their body language and what they acheive on the pitch. Or to put it another way: THE WAY THEY PUT THEMSELVES ABOUT.I'm laughing. My God you're pathetic.
There were rumours Jones and Pogba were on the receiving end of a hairdryer at the end of the Newcastle game, as both of them didn’t defend the first ball from the set piece.
Come on now, you come across as a WUM.
