Volumiza
The alright "V", B-Boy cypher cat
Does it matter where the door leads?Am I right in thinking that door doesn't lead to the pitch?
But the media narrative is that those fans smashed their way on there.
Does it matter where the door leads?Am I right in thinking that door doesn't lead to the pitch?
But the media narrative is that those fans smashed their way on there.
It does when the media claim they smashed their way to the pitch when in reality the security let them in.Does it matter where the door leads?
Connor Mcgregor did tweet that he wanna buy United.Football is truly a sport played for the enjoyment of a community. It could be played in a non-professional manner by the community or profesionnally, like Manchester United do. And just like any other entertainment business, the professionals are doing it for money, because, yes, it is a business. And any business' first and biggest goal is to make profits for its owners.
I don't particularly care if other people share my opinion or not. Problem is with violence and with the potential of setting a very dangerous precedent.
Yes, it's all fine and I understand it, of course. But I disagree when it comes to the reasoning of the opposite argument. I don't see why owners should invest their own money. The appeal of buying a profitable business is the part that it is....profitable. You and many others may not like the leveraged buy-out mechanism of buying the club but it is perfectly legitimate and if you must be angry at someone, why not be angry at the people who sold the club? They are the ones who allowed this "injustice" to happen.
I've written it in a lot more detail in other posts but I'll write it again. The Glazers are not the best owners in the world. But they are the devil we know and they are, most definitely, above the average for owners of a football club. I do not want a Saudi/Chinese/ex-USSR billionaire owner and I do not want 50%+1 ownership model. I would have a big problem with either of these for different reasons.
If there's any other billionaire that wants to buy the club off the Glazers, let's see who they are, what they are planning and we take it from there.
I am really excited about your next post in 2025 - that one should be good. I am so following you!I guess this kind of contribution is what I should be aiming for to increase my post count right?
You think McGregors a billionaire?Connor Mcgregor did tweet that he wanna buy United.
That would be awesome..
Ok I see what you're saying but that video still shows a mob of scumbags breaking into a part of the ground. They should all be punished accordingly for that.It does when the media claim they ashed their way to the pitch when in reality the security let them in.
Have they feck. Scumbags? It was kids, OAP's and everyone inbetween. Fair play to all of them.Ok I see what you're saying but that video still shows a mob of scumbags breaking into a part of the ground. They should all be punished accordingly for that.
I feel sorry for the proper protestors, their actions have been diminished.
What for? Breaking down a door?Have they feck. Scumbags? It was kids, OAP's and everyone inbetween. Fair play to all of them.
He's the kind of owner who wouldn't just take part, he'd be here to take over.You think McGregors a billionaire?
He'd make a fecking awful owner even if he could afford it.
Noone broke down a door, I was literally stood next to it when the stewards opened it.What for? Breaking down a door?
I was commenting on that video above. Whatever it was it was criminal behaviour and stupid because it has taken some of the shine off what happened.Noone broke down a door, I was literally stood next to it when the stewards opened it.
Some lad kicked a complete separate window in which is pretty stupid but It really should not even be discussed. It's one action in thousands of people.
Didn’t know kicking a door made you a scum bag, plenty of scumbags in the police giving United fans a good hiding though.I was commenting on that video above. Whatever it was it was criminal behaviour and stupid because it has taken some of the shine off what happened.
I wasn't labelling all protesters scumbags but those that overstepped the mark shouldn't be deemed acceptable.
Kicking a door or window that doesn't belong to you? Then walking through it? I've never done it and wouldn't dream of doing it.Didn’t know kicking a door made you a scum bag, plenty of scumbags in the police giving United fans a good hiding though.
Someone kicking a door is your main take away from the protests, it’s what your upset about when there’s videos of coppers bashing innocent fans with batons and beating a lad up on the floor breaking his ribs. The only people taking away from the point of the protest are people like you.Kicking a door or window that doesn't belong to you? Then walking through it? I've never done it and wouldn't dream of doing it.
If it was your door or window what would you do?
No. The only people taking anything away from the protests are the people who did this sort of crap. Footage of incidents like this and flares being flung around.Someone kicking a door is your main take away from the protests, it’s what your upset about when there’s videos of coppers bashing innocent fans with batons and beating a lad up on the floor breaking his ribs. The only people taking away from the point of the protest are people like you.
Also plenty of United fans in the police getting assaulted by United fans.Didn’t know kicking a door made you a scum bag, plenty of scumbags in the police giving United fans a good hiding though.
i don't think he is a billionaire. Maybe he and Mayweather could join together.. No one would mess with us.You think McGregors a billionaire?
He'd make a fecking awful owner even if he could afford it.
Course you are, your first reaction to the protest was to call them a bunch of cnuts because you couldn’t sit in front of the telly and watch the match, your first thought is to blame protest and haven’t once mentioned the heavy handed police.No. The only people taking anything away from the protests are the people who did this sort of crap. Footage of incidents like this and flares being flung around.
I am totally for and behind the protests.
It’s not point scoring, the default reaction from people who had their Sunday afternoon ruined is to blame protesters and don’t mention the terrible security or the aggressive Police. They were still smashing people who were nowhere near the enterances. The entrances that were opened by security.Also plenty of United fans in the police getting assaulted by United fans.
None of it is acceptable or should be used to point score.
And scare off any potential buyers.I genuinely think we should make a huge effort to not buy club merchandise this season. If they had horrible sales for long enough it would hit our sponsors where it hurts and in turn hit the owners
People flinging flares at boxes where people are standing ... cnuts, absolutely massive cnuts, and yeah, I was looking forward to the match so what? Doesn't mean I don't support the aim of the protests. Maybe I'm just an old fecker.Course you are, your first reaction to the protest was to call them a bunch of cnuts because you couldn’t sit in front of the telly and watch the match, your first thought is to blame protest and haven’t once mentioned the heavy handed police.
I'm still not sure of your point.Course you are, your first reaction to the protest was to call them a bunch of cnuts because you couldn’t sit in front of the telly and watch the match, your first thought is to blame protest and haven’t once mentioned the heavy handed police.
It’s not point scoring, the default reaction from people who had their Sunday afternoon ruined is to blame protesters and don’t mention the terrible security or the aggressive Police. They were still smashing people who were nowhere near the enterances. The entrances that were opened by security.
Considering his net worth is close to £300m, I'd say he might be the front of a group of investors. I do not know nearly enough about him to have an opinion, especially for his business skills. I know he recently sold a whiskey brand but I don't even know the details of that transaction and its background.Connor Mcgregor did tweet that he wanna buy United.
That would be awesome..
Did the security guard also smash the glass so they could get through easier? Surely just unlocking the door would have been easier if you know security were the ones that invited them in.It does when the media claim they smashed their way to the pitch when in reality the security let them in.
He reckons he’s a billionaire. It’s his shares in proper 12 that are worth 300mil. Even then he’d have no where near enough and only reason he’d probably buy would be to milk money out. He’d need to be part of a syndicate, but even then he’d be tying all he had in to owning it.Considering his net worth is close to £300m, I'd say he might be the front of a group of investors. I do not know nearly enough about him to have an opinion, especially for his business skills. I know he recently sold a whiskey brand but I don't even know the details of that transaction and its background.
I'm sure you'd feel different if they were all in your garden.Honestly, life in this country would be fecking unbearable if the wet blankets who think trespass is beyond the pale had their way.
Different incidents.Did the security guard also smash the glass so they could get through easier? Surely just unlocking the door would have been easier if you know security were the ones that invited them in.
So would they it'd be a health hazard.I'm sure you'd feel different if they were all in your garden.
Why? Because they donm't agree with you or your views does not, in any way, make them shills.There is no doubt there are at least few Glazer men posting as ManUtd fans, that's sort of normal. Hard to find who though, IIRC at least one was clear case and most knew about it. Forgot the user name.
Would be if he wasn't distorting the figures to make a point, as ably pointed out by @MU655 .Great thread from SR
Or you are highlighting the problem in general, people talking without knowing.Why? Because they donm't agree with you or your views does not, in any way, make them shills.
You are just highlighting the problem with this fanbase, it must be one thing or another, it can't be somewhere in the middle.
Any sport, at the very top level, is a business nowadays, whether we like it or not and whether we feel we are a consumer or not. There is far too much money in top sport for it to be otherwise. A dose of reality (much as it pains us) is needed.I'm just starting to put those "customers" on the ignore list. Can't be asked getting warnings or getting banned when I begin telling them what I feel about their "pragmatic" idea of football.
To be replaced by someone who takes even more and puts us into even more debt? That sounds like a good idea to me.It I absolutely no argument to say: ‘United is a business and it’s sole purpose is to make money for the owners’. That is complete bullshit. It is like saying Stonehenge or the Grand Canyon should be taken into private ownership to make money for an individual and anyone who goes there is obliged to give their money to said individual in order to enjoy it, and also, the individual can choose to let them go to rack and ruin should they wish to. Our club needs to be taken off the collection of rectal filth who are currently profiting off it, by any means necessary.
So you condone criminal damage? That's nice to know. Do you really believe that makes you a true supporter?Noone broke down a door, I was literally stood next to it when the stewards opened it.
Some lad kicked a complete separate window in which is pretty stupid but It really should not even be discussed. It's one action in thousands of people.
Good, they probably deserved it.Didn’t know kicking a door made you a scum bag, plenty of scumbags in the police giving United fans a good hiding though.
Not aimed at you, was it?Or you are highlighting the problem in general, people talking without knowing.
I don't know why people can't even read properly, I didn't accuse anyone who is against protests as Glazer boys, I said there are few Glazer men. There was one poster who was already banned long back.
Good, they probably deserved it.