LOL it happens to all players after a loss, Fellaini doesn't get any special attention.
Fellaini (on his way) out? | Duncan Castles: Fellaini agrees new two year deal
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Psychologically I think it’s important that he goes. For me anyway
He’s iconic of a failed era. Shit football, shit mentality, lack of success. He’s David Moyes incarnate on the football pitch.
Nothing against him. He’s got a top drawer mentality, and he’s scored some important goals. But he’s also been a hugely reductive influence on our style of play.
Replacing him with another big unit, but one that can also play a bit, a la SMS or Talisca, would be A ok for me.
Ok you're not making sense again mate, every team's keeper takes goal kicks Lukaku on the occasions you mentioned turned them into something. It wasn't United specifically playing long ball the way we do at times with Fellaini on the pitch.
Seriously mate wise up.
Crossing it, lumping it, long balls whatever you can argue semantics all you want mate. But the fact is as i said when Fellaini's on the pitch we go direct more, especially if were chasing a game. And yes when we abandon all other avenues of attack and keep giving Young the ball to cross from 30-40 yards away to Fellaini thats going direct.
It's amazing people are still trying to deny what is fecking obvious to anyone with eyes and a decent understanding of football.
Did you forget to quote someone mate?
The fact that we haven't played direct as much this season when Fellaini hasn't been on the pitch and Mourinho making such a big deal about him staying. Points to Mourinho probably/hopefully believing that tactic is only really viable with Fellaini.
Also i doubt anyone myself included thinks if Fellaini leaves we will instantly transform into Brazil circa 1970. But it's a step in the right direction, the comebacks against the likes of Palace and City without Fellaini give us hope at least.
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http://www.skysports.com/share/11380544
Looks like it’s now inevitable he’s leaving, I won’t lie I’m fecking ecstatic he is going and can’t wait to see the back of him in a United shirt.
Looks like it’s now inevitable he’s leaving, I won’t lie I’m fecking ecstatic he is going and can’t wait to see the back of him in a United shirt.
When he leaves I wonder who'll be the new one who 'epitomizes everything that's wrong with United post Fergie.'
Except that's the exemplar of long ball football. It's what Wimbledon used to do a lot. I also recall our fans complaining when we used to kick the ball long onto Fellaini's chest from a goal-kick. Some complaint about long ball football, I think.
No-one said anything about going direct. We were talking about going long.
It's amazing that some people have a problem with pushing lots of people forward and putting crosses in just because we're doing it with Fellaini. It's obvious to anyone with eyes a decent understanding of football that we've utilised that tactic before.
Anyway, I'm out of posts for the day. I've been talked to death by the more experienced members.
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Will be pleased to see him go, replace him with a midfielder who can pass the ball and it improves the squad.
He is occasionally useful as a target man but not effective enough and it is an option we use too much and too quickly.
He tried his best but he hasn’t improved or even been as good as he was for Everton. Fact he stuck around so long is a reflection of how poor the managers and other players have been for last 5 seasons.
He is occasionally useful as a target man but not effective enough and it is an option we use too much and too quickly.
He tried his best but he hasn’t improved or even been as good as he was for Everton. Fact he stuck around so long is a reflection of how poor the managers and other players have been for last 5 seasons.
Well said. How he's been here so long I will never know. Worst player in our team since he joined. Can we just start an outrage on social media to try to force him out, just want this confirmed already...
Ok so goal-kicks are long ball football now. So every team ever that takes a goal kick plays long ball football yeah ok mate.
It seems you are being deliberately obtuse. In the context of a discussion about Fellaini and hoofball tactics going direct and playing it long are the same thing.
So we only ever cross it when Fellaini's pushed up as a target man. Have you actually watched United play in the last few years?
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Oh yeah. True. In any case I expect many many of out problems to disappear once that hated player is gone.
He is not really getting hate. He is just an average player with limited use. He did some useful stuff in last 4 years.
His contract is up. People are worked up because they think he is not worth an extension, leave alone the one with same pay or bigger.
This place will erupt when he signs his bumper new 3 year contract on the last day.
Although I have nothing personal against Fellani, it feels like he optimises everything we've become post Fergie. Not his fault I know and slightly distasteful but Fellani is not a United player, never has been, never will be, he's a David Moyes player, and that's the problem with Fellani.
If there are infinite parallel universe's all existing at the same time, I reckon this one is still the only one where Manchester United appointed David Moyes and signed Fellani. Feels like a fever dream that just won't go away.
Although I have nothing personal against Fellani, it feels like he optimises everything we've become post Fergie. Not his fault I know and slightly distasteful but Fellani is not a United player, never has been, never will be, he's a David Moyes player, and that's the problem with Fellani.
If there are infinite parallel universe's all existing at the same time, I reckon this one is still the only one where Manchester United appointed David Moyes and signed Fellani. Feels like a fever dream that just won't go away.
Surely he can't stay.
The club need to realise that if Fellaini turns around and signs a new deal the fanbase will go crackers. Some of them because they don't like him anyway and some of them (like me) don't like that he's obviously wanted to go and the only reason he would stay is because he wants to get a few more pounds out of us.
The club need to realise that if Fellaini turns around and signs a new deal the fanbase will go crackers. Some of them because they don't like him anyway and some of them (like me) don't like that he's obviously wanted to go and the only reason he would stay is because he wants to get a few more pounds out of us.
I rated his skillset but he just asked 10m a year in Milan . He is overrating himself and delusional , Jose caused it
It's Euros, converted to £'s it's only £8,780,163 a year, or £168,859 a week, similar to what he'll want to stay at United, so don't see what AC Milan's problem is, they're getting him for nowt
Milan should do a kickstarter for Fellaini's contract. United fans will cover it and then some.
We can but only hope and wait. I really hope he leaves and that Jose doesn't get his way and that he signs another 4 year contract or something silly like that.
BYE BYE BYE, MAROUANE FELLAINI. DADADADADADADADADA!
Fellaini has his uses coming off the bench and is not as bad all round as a lot make out. I think it’s now best for him and the club he moves on - he will always be the scapegoat at this club.
I was all for a plan b but it did get tiresome and embarrassing in certain fixtures when all we did was route 1 it for 10 minutes. Get in tidy positions and look for a cross is fine but lumping it 50 yards was poor tactically (duh, right).
I was all for a plan b but it did get tiresome and embarrassing in certain fixtures when all we did was route 1 it for 10 minutes. Get in tidy positions and look for a cross is fine but lumping it 50 yards was poor tactically (duh, right).
If Mourinho wants him to stay, I imagine it’ll happen, regardless of any negativity it attracts. But pushing the boat out for a player like Fellaini is a bit troubling, to say the least.
That's like 200k euros a week. Fellaini is worth a max 120k euros. He is being way too greedy as he'll anyway get a signing bonus from them. I hope Milan back out and he goes to Turkey or some other inferior league like China.
To put that into perspective, that's £192,000 a week...
fecking madness. If he wants that there might be someone in China that will pay him. He's either being very ill advised or he's an absolute moron.
To put that into perspective, the highest paid players in Serie A are Bonucci and Higuain, on €7.5M/year respectively.
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So if this is true he expects to be the highest paid player in the league then, interesting.
Probably feels he can request high wages due to being on a free transfer but £192k a week......feck off.
Cannot wait for official confirmation.
It's €192,000 a week to be fair. In pounds it would be below £170,000 a week as stated above by @Class of 63
These reports from Serie A are net, aren't they? However the reported figure from Fellaini isn't, i guess. Still, i wouldn't want to pay Fellaini that amount of money for years to come. Hopefully we don't give in, despite him scoring some goals, e.g against Arsenal.
Think we can see now why our contract negotiations have stalled. If he thinks he should be paid that much then he's daft. I think we'd much rather him walk out on a free than go anywhere near paying him that amount over 3 years, it would also mean Jose was on borrowed time, and as much as he likes Fellani, he isn't about to put his job at risk thanks to him.
Also think Ed has been burnt once with the Moyes/Rooney situation, don't think he'll let it happen again.
I saw Andy Carroll at Manchester airport
Even though I don’t mind him, think he’s a useful tool at times and think it’ll be expensive to replace him, I also can’t help but think it’ll be some sort of watershed moment for us.
Like we’re properly shaking off the Moyes era and moving on.
Like we’re properly shaking off the Moyes era and moving on.
I'm definitely less keen to see him leave than most, and I'm happy to see him leave because of this contract debacle as much as anything else.
But I really don't understand why he's seen as some jester who can't play football to save his life? He's clearly extremely useful. It's not even debatable. I think it's largely due to his association with the Moyes 'era' but it's still a bit ridiculous to me.
Having said that, at least seeing him leave may force us to buck our ideas up in the final 3rd and perhaps come up with something more aesthetically pleasing. And if it's the difference between signing one new central midfielder or two new ones (don't even understand why Fellaini is still seen as a CM but anyway), then I'm all for it.
But I really don't understand why he's seen as some jester who can't play football to save his life? He's clearly extremely useful. It's not even debatable. I think it's largely due to his association with the Moyes 'era' but it's still a bit ridiculous to me.
Having said that, at least seeing him leave may force us to buck our ideas up in the final 3rd and perhaps come up with something more aesthetically pleasing. And if it's the difference between signing one new central midfielder or two new ones (don't even understand why Fellaini is still seen as a CM but anyway), then I'm all for it.
The wage structure at United has to be immense, otherwise it's inexplicable how he's come up with the idea that he's worth up to 190k/week. Sure he's here for a couple of seasons now, worked hard to earn some respect and goals. Mourinho seems to genuinely warm to him, always mentioning his impact and attitude, maybe that's why Fellaini thinks he's too good for his own good these days.
But even Mourinho must acknowledge to himself that sneaking a goal here and there with Fellaini and constantly hoofing the ball towards him leads us nowhere. I'm starting to wonder how Mourinho's powerpoint presentation looked like when he had his job interview. Finally United did only extend Mourinho's contract for 2 years or so, they're keeping their cards close to themselves, not the worst strategy, i guess.
£170k per week.
My God, how do they survive !?
Don't know how true it is these days, but in years gone by, the players partners(Wives/Girlfriends/Boyfriends)would also be on the books to do part-time work at the Club(Secretarial/Admin etc) and be on higher wages than the actual players
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