Fellaini (on his way) out? | Duncan Castles: Fellaini agrees new two year deal

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If you gave me the choice of an Eden Hazard or Fellaini 5 year contract extension being announced tommorow, I'd have to think about it. This place would be hilarious.
 

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Plenty of clubs manage without having to hoof it a tall lamppost upfront, may be Mourinho should opt those tactics instead of copying from Allardyce and Pulis.
Which is fair enough, but that isn't Fellaini's fault and doesn't justify the hate he's getting in this thread.
 

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Surely Jose will tell Ed to offer whatever it takes to keep Fellaini. I reckon he regards him as one of our most important players - after perhaps De Gea, Matic and Lukaku.
 

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He's become a lightning conductor for a lot of the post SAF angst. I don't have anything against the guy. He's a one trick pony, but, if deployed correctly, can be an effective one.

He seems, however, to have become quite injury prone for a lumpen great huddy.

Tactics unlikely to change under Mourinho so if he goes he'll probably be replaced by someone like him.
 

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Jack Charlton played those exact tactics in the 80s and early 90s with Ireland. Lump it up to big Niall Quinn or Cascarino.
We play those tactics more when we don't have Fellaini on the pitch. It goes long to Lukaku for him to knock it on e.g. Martial against Spurs and Rashford against Liverpool. I'm not really sure why Fellaini is associated with that sort of football. He's more get it wide to Young and launch it to the back post.
 

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How many other players in the squad would be publicly indulged by the manager to this extent?

If he wanted to stay he would have signed a contract. I appreciate it's his last, but I'm hoping it isn't here.
 

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Very disrespectful comments for him here. I am in the fellaini out camp but he doesn't deserve the hate.

He gave everything for the club. It's not his fault that he is mediocre.
 

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The state of this thread :houllier: Like most of you I want him gone but calling him a "useless chump" and similar is just ridiculous. It's not his fault we signed him and all 3 managers saw him as a valuable member of the team. Yes, he doesn't have a technical ability to be anywhere near the starting XI but he scored some crucial goals so the least he deserves is some respect.
 

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Have some pasta and feck off, please. Would be good for all 3 parties (not sure about AC Milan but who cares about them anyway).

Very disrespectful comments for him here. I am in the fellaini out camp but he doesn't deserve the hate.

He gave everything for the club. It's not his fault that he is mediocre.
Really now. He's publicly slated the club that's given him about a million more chances than he deserves and he gets preferential treatment like no one else. How exactly does he not 'deserve this'?
 

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Can he take the Europa League cup with him? He deserves it, he destroyed Ajax that night, don’t you remember?
Today, he can choose between AC Milan and PSG. Not bad for a “"useless chump"….
 

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Nothing against him, he has his limitations so I never expected much from him, but it's funny how after everything it looks like we want him to stay and he's turning us down. I'd prefer it if he isn't here next season.
 

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I actually think he is an important squad player for us, but the way he has been bitching to the media about these negotiations is unacceptable. I understand that he is trying to get the best deal for himself but seriously, whatever the club is offering him is the best he could wish to earn anywhere. If he leaves, it will not be to another top club and so he will not get the same terms or package. I hope the club just tell him 'feck you' after how he's treated these negotiations.
What If he goes to a.c. Milan for 3 year deal for more money ?
 

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Just me who finds this hate aimed his way distasteful?

I could understand it if he had wronged the club in some way, but he's seemingly hated because he's seen as the anti-thesis to free flowing attacking football. If he had been available yesterday, there's every chance he could have made a difference in the last 20 minutes. Would it have been pretty? No. But if you think getting rid of Fellaini will solve that problem, you're kidding yourselves.
Agree, prior to his comments about us "missing the chance".

Now I don't really care if he stays or go.

But as a player, he gave his all on the pitch. Had a specific role and he did it quite well so I think we'll actually miss him. Like others have said, losing Fellaini won't suddenly make us play attractive football. We'll just play the same football, perhaps a little less well.
 

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Him leaving will be the best news of the season. I don't dislike the man and its not his fault we bought him, but to me he has embodied our mediocrity and shite style of football since he joined. He should have been binned at the same time as Moyes.
 

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I'm not as venomous in my criticism as some fans are, but I'll be happy if he left. He does have uses in certain types of games, certain opposition and certain situations within games, but there aren't enough of those uses to warrant him staying.
 
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We need to be signing much better quality players than the re-signing of Fellaini. If this is the best Mourinho can do then we really are in a bad way. He shouldnt be dictating the terms to stay either. Its not as if hes Messi or ronaldo.
 

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Fellaini is not a midfielder for a club like United. Perhaps he is not as terrible as some make him out to be but playing with Matic,Pogba and Fellaini was never going to work. We need a player like Kroos,Veratti,Weigl in there and then 2 top fullbacks plus 2 top wide players that can cross a ball and then we would see a lot of difference in our play. For me City did sort out the fullback postions last summer and then they have Sterling and Sane on the wings to stretch teams wide open. This seems like a familar method since the Fergie teams, right? We struggle to open up teams because the lack of proper fullbacks and wing play resulting in the play becoming very predictable as we always do the same things in constantly trying to go through the middle and like Chelsea showed yesterday it´s not difficult to figure out what we are gonna do. Back when we had Neville and Irwin plus Giggs and Beckham every team knew what we were going to do but since we had this option of streching play and deliver high quaility crosses they could not stop us. Speed of play plus having fullbacks that can overlap and cross is and has always been a difficult approach to defend against. Valencia and Young would not be fulllbacks in any top team in Europe. Neither would our wingers/wide forwards.
 

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We play those tactics more when we don't have Fellaini on the pitch. It goes long to Lukaku for him to knock it on e.g. Martial against Spurs and Rashford against Liverpool. I'm not really sure why Fellaini is associated with that sort of football. He's more get it wide to Young and launch it to the back post.
If those are your examples then your point doesn't really make sense mate. They were all goal kicks, it was more a case of Lukaku creating goalscoring opportunities from goal kicks than United playing hoofball. Every team ever has goal kicks every game, and they all kick it up the pitch were they all playing long ball too? No they were obviously not.

It's a fact that United play it direct more often when Fellaini is on the pitch especially when chasing a game. There has been many a game over the last few years we were losing/drawing when almost all other methods of attack are abandoned in favour of launching it long to Fellaini when he is playing.

We were behind in recent games vs Palace, Chelsea, City and Spurs when Fellaini wasn't on the pitch (but Lukaku was) and we managed to score goal from a variety of attacking plays we didn't just go long. Yet vs Arsenal when Fellaini was brought on we went direct again.

So it's fair to say there is a direct connection between Fellaini and long ball tactics being used more in games than they usually are.
 

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How naive must you be to think Fellaini is holding us back from a progressive style of football? If Jose feels it's effective to have Fellaini control long balls, that will continue after he goes.
 

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If those are your examples then your point doesn't really make sense mate. They were all goal kicks, it was more a case of Lukaku creating goalscoring opportunities from goal kicks than United playing hoofball. Every team ever has goal kicks every game, and they all kick it up the pitch were they all playing long ball too? No they were obviously not.
Didn't the goals that came from Niall Quinn's knock-ons come from goal kicks? The examples actually make a lot of sense: what's longer than a ball from the GK to the CF?

It's a fact that United play it direct more often when Fellaini is on the pitch especially when chasing a game. There has been many a game over the last few years we were losing/drawing when almost all other methods of attack are abandoned in favour of launching it long to Fellaini when he is playing.
We used to do that under Van Gaal a lot but barely under Mourinho. Mostly we put it wide for Young to cross. See his goal against Arsenal.

We were behind in recent games vs Palace, Chelsea, City and Spurs when Fellaini wasn't on the pitch (but Lukaku was) and we managed to score goal from a variety of attacking plays we didn't just go long. Yet vs Arsenal when Fellaini was brought on we went direct again.
Crosses aren't going direct. Young's cross for his goal against Arsenal came from about 10 yards outside of the box.
 

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Fellaini hos gotten too much stick during his time here, but can't help but feel it'd be a welcome sight if he leaves. It must be possible to replace him with a more exciting player.

He always gave a proper effort during difficult seasons for United though.
 

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How naive must you be to think Fellaini is holding us back from a progressive style of football? If Jose feels it's effective to have Fellaini control long balls, that will continue after he goes.
I think it's more about the idea of what Fellaini represents as a player, mediocrity, the Moyes era, that should never of been signed by us in the first place, rather than thinking he's holding the team back from a more progressive style of play.
 

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Fellaini hos gotten too much stick during his time here, but can't help but feel it'd be a welcome sight if he leaves. It must be possible to replace him with a more exciting player.

He always gave a proper effort during difficult seasons for United though.
Yeah I pretty much agree with this. Our fanbase is too obssesed with a guy who started 3 league games this season but we’re all desperate to play more progressive football and clearing out as many non technical players for good technical ones will be a good thing.

Hoping for the same at cb, no love lost at all for Smalling and Jones but we need to start players who are comfortable on the ball and can pass well, very few other top teams have as many players as we do with such poor technique
 

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Take care you big elbowing tree. I loved that about him, he'd come into a game of football and his most sublime contribution was from his chest and his elbows. Whilst the opposition nursed thier smashed faces, we'd go up the other end and pass it aimlessly around thier box until it went out for a corner.
 

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I think it's more about the idea of what Fellaini represents as a player, mediocrity, the Moyes era, that should never of been signed by us in the first place, rather than thinking he's holding the team back from a more progressive style of play.
That's nonsense. What "represents the Moyes era" is the other players' inability to produce performances that would make Fellaini a permanent bench warmer.
 

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Psychologically I think it’s important that he goes. For me anyway :lol:.

He’s iconic of a failed era. Shit football, shit mentality, lack of success. He’s David Moyes incarnate on the football pitch.

Nothing against him. He’s got a top drawer mentality, and he’s scored some important goals. But he’s also been a hugely reductive influence on our style of play.

Replacing him with another big unit, but one that can also play a bit, a la SMS or Talisca, would be A ok for me.
 

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Do you think Mourinho's going to employ different tactics to what we've seen the last 2 years without Fellaini next season? :confused:
I can only hope. There aren't many players similar to Fellaini, so he cannot replace him like for like unless he buys Crouch or Carroll.
 

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Which is fair enough, but that isn't Fellaini's fault and doesn't justify the hate he's getting in this thread.
He is not getting any hate, he's a crap player specialising in a skill most of our fans hate. Go to Martial's or Rashford's or Sanchez' performance threads and read the posts there, Fellaini is getting nothing of that sort.
 

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He's had his uses. For all his fault, he was useful in getting top 4 and FA cup in LVG's reign and the Europa last season. Its funny that Moyes didn't know how to use him, 'new Keane' he said. Like a gullible idiot I fell for that.

Sure, he's a good plan B but the problem is Jose uses his far too often. Considering how Fellaini was blowing his own trumpet and Jose publicly stating his importance multiple times, extending his contract is a backward step for the club. Another sign of resistance to change.

Its time to part ways.
 

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He is not getting any hate, he's a crap player specialising in a skill most of our fans hate. Go to Martial's or Rashford's or Sanchez' performance threads and read the posts there, Fellaini is getting nothing of that sort.
Uhm have you read any comments after a loss if Fellaini plays or does anything bad?

Dont try to make it sound like he doesnt get any hate here.
 
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