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Who knows, maybe he'll play box-to-box role as he got all sorts of abilities, defensive and offensive.
 

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What's Fellaini's best position ? Is he to partner Carrick in the 4-2-3-1 or does he play behind the main striker in a 4-4-1-1 ?
 

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What's Fellaini's best position ? Is he to partner Carrick in the 4-2-3-1 or does he play behind the main striker in a 4-4-1-1 ?

For us, it'd be next to Carrick. We've got much better players to play behind RVP.
 

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What's Fellaini's best position ? Is he to partner Carrick in the 4-2-3-1 or does he play behind the main striker in a 4-4-1-1 ?

I only want to see Fellaini go forward for corners and during those "need a goal in injury time" moments. Beyond that he's not good enough to be used behind the striker, he'll be a cm. If we ever start picking Fellaini ahead of Kagawa up front I really will be pissed off.
 

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For us, it'd be next to Carrick. We've got much better players to play behind RVP.
Yeah this, relieve some of the pressure on Rooney and Kags to "track back" now we have a central midfielder with testicles. Then again we could easily use him behind RVP as a plan b so he does offer alternatives.
 

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Imagine Carrick as CAM :drool: Actually, that would be nice to try out if we get both Fellaini and Herrera behind him in a 4-3-3.
 

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Yeah this, relieve some of the pressure on Rooney and Kags to "track back" now we have a central midfielder with testicles. Then again we could easily use him behind RVP as a plan b so he does offer alternatives.

The plan B only when we're chasing games late on.

--------RVP----
Kagawa--Rooney-Nani
--Carrick--herrera/fellaini

looks good.
 

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What's Fellaini's best position ? Is he to partner Carrick in the 4-2-3-1 or does he play behind the main striker in a 4-4-1-1 ?
Moyes always liked 4-4-1-1 but with mobile wingers it can always change to 4-2-3-1, dynamically.

Fellaini can play multirole, supporting the striker or supporting the man who supports the striker with Carrick assecurating him.

He could play the role of typical defensive midfielder but he's usually shining, when playing bit more forward.

CM / AM are probably the best options for him but obviously Moyes know much more than us in that matter.
 

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Jacob I don't think Carrick offers enough threat to be a CAM
 

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Fellaini is a good player for a mid-table club, but I would say that's his limit.

He's certainly below the standard of the average first team player at United, and he won't improve the team but he will improve the squad...slightly. Nothing to get excited about here.
 

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Where does this obsession with moving Carrick further forward come from? It's like saying 'De Gea is a great goalkeeper, time to try him on the left wing :drool:'

He's great at doing what he's been doing for the past seven years, why change that?
 

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My brothers just come in and shown me Mockney's white sheet photoshop and said 'Fellaini has arrived at United'.

:lol:
 

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I've always thought he would be a good signing,but the lack of enthusiasm of the pundits and this signing worries me a little.
 

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Fellaini is a good player for a mid-table club, but I would say that's his limit.

He's certainly below the standard of the average first team player at United, and he won't improve the team but he will improve the squad...slightly. Nothing to get excited about here.
wouldnt have been my first choice, but thats a bit harsh
 

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Where does this obsession with moving Carrick further forward come from? It's like saying 'De Gea is a great goalkeeper, time to try him on the left wing :drool:'

He's great at doing what he's been doing for the past seven years, why change that?
Don't talk daft.

Right wing son, right wing. Imagine the deep crosses and magic footwork...
 

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The plan B only when we're chasing games late on.

--------RVP----
Kagawa--Rooney-Nani
--Carrick--herrera/fellaini

looks good.
Looks great, very pleased if we get both centre mids
 

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Fellaini is a good player for a mid-table club, but I would say that's his limit.

He's certainly below the standard of the average first team player at United, and he won't improve the team but he will improve the squad...slightly. Nothing to get excited about here.
He'll immediately become our second best midfielder, of course he'll improve the first team. He's better than Cleverley.
 

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Raphael Rio Vidic Evra
Carrick Fellaini (Herrera)
Nani Kagawa Rooney
RVP

Our best XI ?
 

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Carrick---Herrera---Fellaini

That's a strong midfield that can cope in the big games.
 

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What do you think the difference between those two are?
If the wingers going aggressively forward, at least one of centre midfielders may be prepared more defensively for a counter attack if the build up fails.

Obviously the 4-2-3-1 offers more support to striker but 4-4-1-1 is more balanced and offers Rooney or Kagawa more floating role.

The transition between these formations is what requires a lot of movement that sometimes was lacking in some matches.
 

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Carrick---Herrera---Fellaini

That's a strong midfield that can cope in the big games.
So many options and so many midfielders that have their own style, it would definitely gave our opponents more work in attempt to read our game.
 

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If the wingers going aggressively forward, at least one of centre midfielders may be prepared more defensively for a counter attack if the build up fails.

Obviously the 4-2-3-1 offers more support to striker but 4-4-1-1 is more balanced and offers Rooney or Kagawa more floating role.

The transition between these formations is what requires a lot of movement that sometimes was lacking in some matches.
I don't think there is any difference. Both have one striker, one player behind the striker as a number 10 and two wingers.
 

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McCarthy's move to Everton is currently stuck and so is Fellaini's to Man United. The tension grows.
Good grief. It's like Bullet Time from The Matrix...
 

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I don't think there is any difference. Both have one striker, one player behind the striker as a number 10 and two wingers.
4-2-3-1 is slightly better in closing down the oppostion near their own box but still there must be someone who'll be aware that counter attack may occur and probably that's why Carrick is priceless for this team.

I completely agree that 4-2-3-1 is the evolved version of 4-4-1-1. The difference is almost invisible, especially in fast paced clashes.
 

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5 hours left? Seems very unlikely we'll land both Fellaini and Herrera in time - one of them we haven't even agreed a fee for.
 

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4-2-3-1 is slightly better in closing down the oppostion near their own box but still there must be someone who'll be aware that counter attack may occur and probably that's why Carrick is priceless for this team.

I completely agree that 4-2-3-1 is the evolved version of 4-4-1-1. The difference is almost invisible, especially in fast paced clashes.
The big differentiator is the depth of the CMs. 4231 morphs into 442 and even 424 very easily.
 

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Fernando staying at Porto so it might be off, on the other hand Barry loan nearing agreement so it might be on!
 
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