And I am not there, far from it. I would let him see out the season and see how he starts the 2021-2022 season (even if we end up 16th this season), but I still feel okay with criticising or rather questioning his approach. I do acknowledge it has been quite a transition at Chelsea which he has to deal with - and I have no clue about the reality he is facing and its complexity at the moment.
He and Terry are probably the greatest players in your history. I think you should assess him at the end of the season, to be honest.
Upto and including Leeds i was delighted with the progress we were making but something has gone horribly wrong since, it's similar to what suddenly happened in Conte's second season (those three horror 0-0's vs Norwich, Arsenal and Leicester in January and beyond) where it almost feels like Tony Pulis has took over.
We're actually better off than we were last year in the equivalent fixtures. I don't think Lampard is lighting the world on fire or anything and he deserves closer scrutiny than he got last year, but I think we have improved overall. Whether that's sufficient to justify keeping him on given the level of investment is the key question. If he keeps doing idiotic things like his team selection against Villa then I could see us taking action.
Furthermore, they had Dennis Wise in that team, and what an absolutely massive, annoying, cnut of a player he was.Raising your game against the European champions, only to still end up 5th. Typical game raising, small time cnuts
Impressive. A post which is amusingly audacious and amazingly annoying!
Much as i like Jody, he adds feck all to the coaching set up IMO. He is lifeless on the sidelines and I think Frank needs someone more experienced alongside him.Jody Morris ?
utterly loved him, still do. Best captain we have had behind JT IMO. Little fecking bastard of a player.
I remember I was about 9 years old and we had this on the radio in the car and I was fecking crying when we went 1-0 down
what an embarrassment.Are you really basing you opinion of him as a coach from how he acts on the touchline?
I mean, I see people on twitter say this a lot, but the truth is, we don't know that. No-one had bad word to say about Jody during the good periods, but suddenly now we know exactly what his day to day duties are and how effectively he carries them out?. It's like that time when people became obsessed with Hilario being the goalkeeping coach because Kepa was performing terribly.
Mendy, Chilwell and Silva have in no way been flops and Ziyech has been great whenever he played.
I couldn't disagree with this more. He's shown absolutely nothing to suggest he is a better manager than Solskjaer. Solskjaer has drastically improved Utd and the league form over the last 12 months shows this clearly. Despite all of the signings this Chelsea team is exactly like Frank's Derby team - easy on the eye at times but soft at the centre and flakey as f*ck. Lampard is repeating the same mistakes over and over again.
To be honest, Ole is doing much better and probably coping with much more pressure than Lamps. PL > CL every time, when it comes to assessing managers. PL is your bread & butter business, there are too many flukes in CL.
I feel like his intentions for how Chelsea would play were really good at the start and then he's lost a bit of faith in Tammy and so now tweaked things to play to Giroud's strengths. It means you're a bit of a mish-mash of styles. Still a good team but I think to win the PL these days you need to be quite innovative tactically and Chelsea have moved away from that a bit.
They're in a false posistion because other teams have a game or two in hand over Chelsea.
Should put you on ignore for that one alone haha
Liar liar pants on fire.
Yet all the stats point to Ole being better and Lampard struggling big time. Not as bad as Arteta mind, but still flopping hard.
Should Ole be put in the same category ? I have been thinking about this lately, as I see this comparison a lot, but logically wise when we think about it, both Lampard and Arteta are novice managers. This is Lampard's 3rd year and Arteta's 2nd as a football managers. Ole has been a manager since 2011, about 9-10 years. He's not a novice and has a good amount of experience neither of them has. These comparisons seem to all originate because they're all ex players/legends but I don't think Ole is comparable to them.
Games in hand mean absolutely nothing until the points are on the board. They are currently 6th not 9th. I don't expect them to get near Liverpool, never said they would.
Did wise nip butt's dick there?
They'll all be compared to one another because they're all managing top clubs in the league. It's not overly fair granted, but tough shit ultimately, part of the deal of being a Manager. League stats below:
| Manager | Games | Win % | Loss % | Points Per Game |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Ole | 74 | 52.70% | 21.62% | 1.84 |
| Jose | 41 | 48.78% | 24.39% | 1.73 |
| Frank | 54 | 50.00% | 29.63% | 1.70 |
| Arteta | 37 | 40.54% | 35.14% | 1.46 |
You can't have it all ways
Maybe you're right. I was just thinking that Ole has at least 6-7 years more of management than Lampard or Arteta, even if it's in a low league level team and not at top level, but I can of course see your point.
What about penalties awarded per game.... . Pretty certain OGS is the league leader in that in the last couple of seasons?
If Lampard wants more penalties he should get his team to attack more
And let's not forget Chelsea were 3rd and the EL champions the summer that Frank came in.
This quote is so ridiculous not sure where to begin butchering it. This is almost suggesting we're getting more PKs because of Ole.
This argument always goes in circles, because the obvious response to that is that he lost Hazard, the man who scored or assisted almost 50% of all the goals the season before.
You then replaced that man with Pulisic who outperformed him last season... And around and around we go
This stat that’s been floating around gets on my tits irrespective of whether it’s true. Every game is worth the same – three points.
Exactly - the injury prone Pulisic who has a quite a long way to go get close to Hazard's influence at his peak.You then replaced that man with Pulisic who outperformed him last season... And around and around we go
Not exactly the same, Maguire WWE tackle on Azpi in Utd Chelsea game for example.
Both United and Chelsea have got 5 penalties in PL this season. It's not our fault if your players cannot take it properly. In the meantime We have conceded 4 penalties and you have had 2 penalties against you, so much for refs or VARS favouring us .Not exactly the same, Maguire WWE tackle on Azpi in Utd Chelsea game for example.
I don't think Chelsea are being particularly hard done by in terms of refereeing in general. Lampard can't complain too much.
Utd have had a huge number of penalties though in last couple of seasons. Probably a record net amount (for - against) I would think. Don't think it's because of OGS. Lucky maybe....
You cannot tell me Lampard wouldnt be better off with a more senior experienced asst.. Its quite a widely held opinion of Jody Morris tbh. Only have to visit social media or various forums of ours. He is not an assistant manager IMO. He is never vocal on the touchline either. Compare that to most other assistants in the league.
