He won't make it to the end of the season, all that attacking talent...
Frank Lampard's Sack Watch / Sacked
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He won’t make it to the end of Eastenders
When he goes I will miss him telling our bench to get over winning just "one" PL. Like the other 18 league titles magically don't exist - much like his managerial abilities. 
Lamps is a Chelsea legend as a player. He is an every other team legend as manager. Please don't sack him.
Lamps is a Chelsea legend as a player. He is an every other team legend as manager. Please don't sack him.
His problem is persisting with out of form players, shouldn't be afraid of dropping them, they were completely transformed when Pulisic moved into his favoured position and Hudson-Odoi came on.
I'd say it depends. If Chelsea sniff even a hint of danger of losing out on top 4, he might not survive. For now though, being within 4-5 points of end place is not disaster, provided he steadies the situation.
I don’t want to be a homer, but I think it’s clear LFC have the best recruitment going, at least in the years since Klopp has been there. Even the niche signings like Ragnar Klavan have come off, they’ve sold well, and when they spend big it tends to work out.
I think United’s recruitment is a case of throwing big money at big names and throwing big money at English names. City’s approach seems similar in that they continue to neglect certain positions (United most glaring example is RW and wherever Martial/Pogba are lined up on paper in preseason) like CF while spending 150million on defenders and fullbacks every annum.
Chelsea are threatening in that every piece seems to be there in the squad, but that is due in largeeeeeee part to their academy and loan system. Their high profile big money signings read like a who’s who of players that were made for the continent and just want to get the feck out of the premier league. Going narrow for my example but look at Jorginho; not cheap at the time!, and now he’s still there a couple years later despite being clearly on the fringe (and apparently he’s a vice captain? Lampards choices of Captain have been funky and funny) and despite being too good for just being a starter in the champions league he’s got a bit of the Xhaka about him,where if you play him enough or in the wrong matches the fatal flaws in his game in this league start to shine.
TL;DR I think Chelsea’s squad strength (crazy strong) gets confused for good recruitment. Kepa Kai Timo Rudiger all examples just from last couple years where big name was brought in for big price with no thought seemingly put into where they fit, or if they’ll be any good in England.
A lot of similarities between him and Ole for sure. Willing to put up with a lot of shit other managers wouldn't because they've landed their dream jobs, and tasked with completely reinventing a team's playing style and player acquisition strategy from the ground up. If they fail, they'll be easily replaced by someone better, and they'll have established a lot of good foundations. If they succeed against the odds, they'll provide a lot of long-term gain for short-term pain. They needed someone to manage that transition and these two were willing to be the sacrificial lambs because they were inspired by the long shot chances of pulling it off.
It doesn't really matter if Havertz, Pulisic and Ziyech don't all click right now. If they develop into the players they're expected to become, they'll provide years of value to the team that completely overwrite any teething pains. Someone like Rice would have been more useful now but you can never have too many top class attackers. To be well stacked in that area with some of the best young players available is a very promising position for any new manager to come into.
Not sure Lampard has the right mentality to succeed long-term as a manager at a high level. He seems to care far too much about what other people think. He's been protected a lot as a rare Englishman in that position but if things go south he will get torn apart and I can see him properly cracking up.
It doesn't really matter if Havertz, Pulisic and Ziyech don't all click right now. If they develop into the players they're expected to become, they'll provide years of value to the team that completely overwrite any teething pains. Someone like Rice would have been more useful now but you can never have too many top class attackers. To be well stacked in that area with some of the best young players available is a very promising position for any new manager to come into.
Not sure Lampard has the right mentality to succeed long-term as a manager at a high level. He seems to care far too much about what other people think. He's been protected a lot as a rare Englishman in that position but if things go south he will get torn apart and I can see him properly cracking up.
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If he goes do they go to Tuchel?
With that squad he should be challenging for the title, this is not good enough.
Lampard is baffling
If your main CM as Werner isn't playing well just sub him on later
He should play Gilmore more and get Ruben back from Fulham. His midfield is atrociously poor
Poor Pulisic is working his socks off
If your main CM as Werner isn't playing well just sub him on later
He should play Gilmore more and get Ruben back from Fulham. His midfield is atrociously poor
Poor Pulisic is working his socks off
How do you solve your midfield? Lack of creativity and control imo
He’s not wrong though is he, technically. you’ve won one premier league cup, 18 first division cups (when the league was a lot easier). Basically saying you’ve not done a lot domestically for 30 odd years until recently.When he goes I will miss him telling our bench to get over winning just "one" PL. Like the other 18 league titles magically don't exist - much like his managerial abilities.
Lamps is a Chelsea legend as a player. He is an every other team legend as manager. Please don't sack him.
This is the thing about making such huge investments (£250M)-- the expectations will then always outstrip reality of player integration. Someone should have told Fat Frank that he needs to be careful what he wish for.
You should be happy that he ignored the asterisk that came with your "one" PL title.When he goes I will miss him telling our bench to get over winning just "one" PL. Like the other 18 league titles magically don't exist - much like his managerial abilities.
Lamps is a Chelsea legend as a player. He is an every other team legend as manager. Please don't sack him.
This is how I see both men – they’re playing the unenviable role of transitional managers.
I think both squads have quality to such an extent that if you put a top drawer manager in charge they could cause some major damage.
Just my read, but I think Ole is better tactically – it strikes me that he’s better at reactively setting a team up to disarm an opponent.
Lampard seems a little more one dimensional to me.
The heat is getting closer, Frankie! I hope you have a masterplan because you are going to need it now.
Fat Frank about to trimmed and roasted
We have 19 asterisks.
It's hard when you have bought players and they don't perform because you'll be pressured to play them and trust them even if it means you'll lose your job, because if you don't play them trusting other players and lose it looks like you've wasted millions for no reason and will definitely lose the job.
I hope Frank gets them playing well enough to take points of our other rivals but after that I don't care.
I hope Frank gets them playing well enough to take points of our other rivals but after that I don't care.
No, i really think/want him to see out the season at a minimum. You know our board though, a bad defeat to villa and then city and it'll get twitchy. He needs to feck Jody Morris off aswell, he does sweet FA
I think he should have brought JT with him
correct, but you have one PL
Does he live that rent free in your head?When he goes I will miss him telling our bench to get over winning just "one" PL. Like the other 18 league titles magically don't exist - much like his managerial abilities.
Doubt if the town is big enough to handle both their egos.
I think his managerial start is similar to his playing career. Fans were skeptical of him earlier, and at one point even accused to being favoured over other better talent, yet fought his way to the top. If he shows same mental strength which he showed as a player, he will be a top manager.
He was talking about Klopp and the current players right, and not the club as a whole.
Spending lot of money doesn't mean you will be better than having transfer ban.
Manager isn't just about coaching alone but also man management to manage the players and your skill to build the team. Finding and signing the right players are not easy.
Manager isn't just about coaching alone but also man management to manage the players and your skill to build the team. Finding and signing the right players are not easy.
Very difficult situation for him. 250 mill spent puts massive pressure on him to perform and it's not working out. The job's too big for him and Tuchel happens to be a free agent. It can only go one way!
Jody Morris ?
I don't think he is doing that badly. I think their transfer activity was naive in many ways, and has upset the team more than a bit. If he gets beyond this season and is ruthless with signings that aren't working out then he might be okay
Didn't Tuchel have a really rocky relationship with his superiors at his two previous clubs, eventually being fired from both clubs? I'd rather stick with Frank, thanks.
Yes please! Love Jody.Jody Morris ?
Once Frank has won a few leagues and sods off to win the world cup with England of course.
What?
Last season was pretty good.
But this season, you could have had Chris Hughton managing Chelsea and he would not have done worse point-wise.
The actual points total is quite bad.
My biggest problem with him is that, from my perspective, he is not adjusting sufficiently to our opponents. It seems to me that he is basing his team selection on names and perceived potential - but it is clear that he has a bias towards certain players.
(He may still be clinging to the idea of playing his own brand of football, but he should move on from that idea quickly.)
I am not sure about Tuchel, really.
But, the BVB leadership was just atrocious, especially the way they dealt with the bomb attack on the squad.
I found Tuchel's stance quite sympathetic and sensible in that case. So, he was very much in the right, from my point of view. (and Dortmund is actually still paying the price for the bad management by their CEO - in my humble opinion).
We should not be disturbed by what happened at PSG, because eventually he did okay there - and Leonardo seems to have an inflated ego issue. I doubt they will perform instantly better without Tuchel.
So, there are other possible issues with Tuchel, but IMO there was not much wrong with him at PSG or Dortmund.
We're actually better off than we were last year in the equivalent fixtures. I don't think Lampard is lighting the world on fire or anything and he deserves closer scrutiny than he got last year, but I think we have improved overall. Whether that's sufficient to justify keeping him on given the level of investment is the key question. If he keeps doing idiotic things like his team selection against Villa then I could see us taking action.
The expectations are way different than last year. Last year, a top 8 finish would have been sufficient. This year - at least it's me - the expectations are higher than sneaking in the top 4. So, for me it's not relevant whether we are better off compared to last season.
Wasn't it Jody who had that ridiculous trombone blowing celebration when he scored ?
You don't make an inexperienced appointment like Lampard only to sack him because of inconsistencies. Makes no sense. I think he's doing quite well in the grand scheme of things, its just a shame for him that their big money signings haven't really worked out yet.
Whos responsible for transfers at Chelsea? Have they got a DoF or is it the manager?
Whos responsible for transfers at Chelsea? Have they got a DoF or is it the manager?
Raising your game against the European champions, only to still end up 5th. Typical game raising, small time cnuts
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