Could his doping case be an issue with work permit?
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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Yeah I believe he's signed but with the rushed manner in which we got him in to sign and do a medical, I thought the hold up would be that we've got not managed to get his media stuff done. I thought work permits are usually resolved quite quickly, so to still not have heard anything after a week is strange.
No shit, I though we are gonna confirm him during the world cup I think the issue with permits is only straight forward if the player has played in 25% of international games in the past year. I'm not sure if Fred has. But I think it's a bit more complex if the player doesn't fall into that category. I can't remember clearly.
And to think I got questioned when I asked if he was a Utd player yet, in your face @edcunited1878 , anyway, hope its confirmed soon and with no problems
He is a United player. Just too many wums and muppets on here who get in their own way.
The mods and users who update title threads are always up to date. The title of this thread wouldn't have changed if Fred wasn't a Manchester United player.
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Kante is probably the more similar player in the PL. Fred has better passing though. (Fernandinho share some similarities too)
Considering how much success Kante (or fernandinho) has bringed to his clubs, I think we can expect a similar impact from Fred.
I'm sure manchester united lawyers would certify that before a deal of this magnitude is done and dusted.
Come on, we're not that bad. When was the last time a paid deal broke due to working permit
Sergej Milinković-Savić's brother, I think, he couldn't play for us due to working permit even though he had signed a contract with us.
We knew that will happened and took a pun i think. He wasnt bought for 50m
Just saw the picture Fred posted on his Instagram profile - looks like he is fine as far as his injury goes 
Let‘s hope he does not overdo it and makes it worse...
Let‘s hope he does not overdo it and makes it worse...
Any idea why the unveiling is taking so long? Trouble with his permit?
Looks like it. I'm guessing the initial application was rejected.
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Next week it will be after the WC
What is so hard about those things?
I admit I do not know the criteria for permits but it seems nonsense that a current Brazil International currently at the World Cup would need an appeal.
Speculating here. I am increasingly convinced it has to do with either his doping case or a conviction no one knows about. Usually, there's the initial application which is a standard process and if everything is in order, he gets his permit easily. If there are problems the initial application has to be rejected because it's only during an appeal the home office can hear the specifics of the case.
I suspect that's what has happened here. The club seems confident he will get his VISA so I don't think there's anything to be worried about.
Yes, the process is straightforward for an international. Once you've played in at least 25% of international games in the past year, you get your permit.
Fred has been found guilty of doping, which probably puts him in the special category.
Let's not forget that the Immigration Office where they process the permits is based in Liverpool....
I see thank you.
The papers are saying that he hasnt agreed personal terms which is a bit more serious. Seems hes not so keen to come at all costs after all. Maybe another team sniffing around?
Bull. Done his medical and done interviews.
Source?
Seems like rubbish given how he was delighted and congratulated by his international colleagues when the deal was done.
Few posts off newsnow on the religions thread
the papers dont know shit.
It is only a small matter they say and will be sorted this coming week. Permit is through now.
At the very least the core aspects of the contract has been agreed. He's probably still to pick what Chevy he wants. Even the MEN article you've quoted says there are no concerns. Hardly serious. The fact one of your sources is The Daily Star says it all really.
If that was true he wouldn't have posted on his own instagram that he was "proud to be a red" or whatever he said. It's done, chill.
Like you I thought this was done a fortnight ago. Whats making it stretch out is what I was surprised about, if it is personal issues.
Probably work permit, he doesn’t have many caps for Brazil so maybe that’s what is taking the time?
Probably. Either way, it’s not worth worrying about.
We wouldn't have announced an official agreement if it wasn't over. The rest are probably just routine work.
I just remember that I saw Fred play in the Champions League in a midfield of 2. But, is he better as No.6 or No.8?
8 by all accounts
We're probably waiting for the stock exchange to reopen.