Johan07
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I dont know if this is directed at me, but if it is I will take the bait. Yeah, I have probably seen Fred play a lot more than most of the posters on here. But I didnt use that as an argument for saying that he will fail. I tried to make the point that its really difficult to judge him on games he plays here in the Ukraine. I have seen him a lot and I have no clue how he will adapt to the PL. ITs impossible to say after seeing him play away at Chornomorets with 500 spectators on a snowy pitch. Which is kinda the norm for Ukrainian football nowadays.Wow this thread is mental. A lot of football experts here giving an in depth run down on how Fred is and how he plays after watching him not at all or a few times. I have barely seen him play, we arent going to spend over £50m on a 25 year old to bed in him over a season or two, neither would I doubt we are buying him as a lesser player than Fellaini and Herrera. the person who said that has obfviously seen him more than me and others on here but why is everybody taking his word for it?
Utterly ludicrous comments on here. He has been bought to play first team football, whether he is a flop or a world class player lets see. Personally I am excited to see how he does as I hate Fellaini so anybody would be better, McTominay has done well in his first season but dont see him as a long term started and Herreras attitude I love but lets face it bar a period of 3/4 months he hasnt set the world alight. We have needed a signign there and Fred could be that man. The negativity I could understand if it is a player we all know well, but it isnt
I hope he will be an instant hit, I really do, but things were getting out of hand in this thread earlier when people were haussing him up to be the next Iniesta or something.
And also: £50m today isnt that much. I dont see how that number is an argument for him starting every game immediately. We bought Lindelöf for a similar amount (taking into account that he is a defender). Victor came from a way better league, had more caps (Fred has played 8 times for Brazil, six games are from 2015 in the Confederations cup when he was still playing in Brazil) and similar if not more European experience. Victor also speaks fluent English. Fred speaks none. What they do have in common is that they are both central players, which is the positions that is the most difficult to adapt to in the PL because of the tempo. Wing or FB are easier positions to adapt to.
Lindelöf has still not adapted fully, though it looked better and better after christmas. And people are wanting to get rid of him now when they spoke about him in the same words as some do about Fred now. It felt like a majority of the Caf was thinking that we would start with Bailly and Lindelöf last season. Didnt happen.
I love that United has an "Ukrainian" brazilian now. But lets give him a break and let him find his feet first before judging him.
And finally: I dont think Mourinho bought Fred because he is better than Fellaini or Herrera. I think he bought Fred because he is a different type of player than both of them and will bring another option to the team. When he is ready.
EDIT: One final thing (which actually Lindelöf and Fred have in common as well): Shaktar plays a possession-based system with a high back four and a high press. I would compare them to Spurs in the PL. Fred will need to adapt to the lowblock-defense without pressing that is Mourinhos football. Lindelöf had major issues with that since Benfica play completely differently than what United do. Which has been too overlooked IMO.
But lets hope he does adapt ASAP. No one would be happier than me.
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