Yep we would have done better if everybody was 5ft 8 so I get where you’re coming from...
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik @Rood and Imran @Annihilate Now! start with the good news by celebrating Manchester United Women's emphatic FA Cup win over Spurs at Wembley and the future of manager Marc Skinner.
Then it's the bad news and the ever worsening form of our Men with losses to Arsenal and Palace.
Finally the main debate - ETH Out now or keep him until the end of the season - if not longer. Are you Team Nik or Team Imran?
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What was so cowardly about the Chelsea game? One team defended with 10 men and the other did not so how do you go about figuring that we were the cowardly ones?
If we were the ones camped in our box all game sure but we weren’t...
He didnt just have strong giants, Ramirez was of average height but pretty lanky and just ran around a lot. Fred is as dynamic can also tackle and pass the ball with great feet, he`s a mix of Ramirez and Fabregas basically, but we also have a different set of midfielders now, Pogba and Matic are tall and strong enough but we desperately need someone dynamic, I think Mourinho must see that too
Yep. That's a fair point as others have pointed out. I always think of guys like Khedira, Motta, Matic, Pogba, Fellaini etc. who are bigger CMs, but he definitely has a record of mixing silk and dynamism in his midfields so it's an unfair judgment on my part probably.
Your opinion has been actively destroyed!
I don't know much about Fred, what will he bring to us that we don't already have?
Is he in the Brazil WC squad? Starter?
If we do sign him, will be my first real chance to see what he is about
If we do sign him, will be my first real chance to see what he is about
He could fill in for our mascot on match days if they’re not well
He is though not sure about starting
I love pre world cup signings that are going to the world cup. It's a free hype train.
Hmm I'm struggling to think of who their midfield consists of -
Fernandinho
Casemeiro
That's all I have..
Yeah just hope we sign him before an impressive tournament and fee inflation
We will want to sign him before, Shaktar and his agent will want a deal afterwards.
He is not a starter. The midfield is Paulinho-Casemiro-Coutinho. Fred is a sub for Paulinho.
Ah Paulinho! Forgot he went to Barca... So strange from China to an almost unbeaten la Liga winner .
Yes, very strange case Paulinho. Ended as third top scorer for Barcelona coming from the bench
I have only seen his televised games in CL and his highlight reels. Things I like are:
- A good number of intercepts due to spatial awareness and positioning intelligence
- Absolutely sublime layoffs and through balls
- very agile both in the run and dribble
- Very quick feet
- looks like he has a high work rate
- Can find a dink/pass through the eye of a needle when he is in trouble or surrounded by a culdesac of players
- World class heading ability
Marouane Fellaini.
Only kidding, his heading is pretty average.
I remember the LVG wc hype train lol. But you're right its awesome to watch players we just bought play in the wc.
We desperately need a playmaker in midfield, the balance is way off with an erratic AM and a fairly immobile DM, on top of that if we want an energetic CM there are better out there than Fred, his technique and control is too loose IMO.
No, I think the fullback's and CB we are linked with are good choices, the CM's and attackers are the complete opposite.
You'd think Brazil has turned into Spain. A bench midfield of Fernandinho, Fred and Renato Augosto!
Forgot he played against us..seems a very good/compact passer of the ball
Would like to see how he copes with being pressed and tackling.
I really want him watching 4-6 reels of him and seeing his two games vs City this season.
It's a cliche on here and it's a matter of opinion but I do believe "he's exactly what we need"
I've said for a while we need a diminutive player in the middle, who can scoot with the ball and get out of tight situations. Modric is my ultimate but I look at Fred and see some good qualities. Even in that 2013 video, against us at OT you can see the qualities he has.
He could be the type of player where everyone will point to his stats and say "not many goals, assists or key passes" but we need the link man. Pogba's the middle man who needs to supply the final moments. We need a player in the middle who will attract opposition players to him to close him down but have the ability to wriggle away, keep the ball and get the ball to the front players in more space.
Matic
Fred Pogba
Looks balanced to me.
The issue of us having the full backs to provide width and the issue of establishing a good understanding between a front three would still need to be worked on.
It's a cliche on here and it's a matter of opinion but I do believe "he's exactly what we need"
I've said for a while we need a diminutive player in the middle, who can scoot with the ball and get out of tight situations. Modric is my ultimate but I look at Fred and see some good qualities. Even in that 2013 video, against us at OT you can see the qualities he has.
He could be the type of player where everyone will point to his stats and say "not many goals, assists or key passes" but we need the link man. Pogba's the middle man who needs to supply the final moments. We need a player in the middle who will attract opposition players to him to close him down but have the ability to wriggle away, keep the ball and get the ball to the front players in more space.
Matic
Fred Pogba
Looks balanced to me.
The issue of us having the full backs to provide width and the issue of establishing a good understanding between a front three would still need to be worked on.
We should go for that Willian guy!
Spain and German have better options than Brazil in the midfield(to control games).
Tite refused to call Jorginho so hes playing for Italy now. Fabinho was not named, i dont know why. And Arthur is out because he was injured for months.
I believe Arthur-Jorginho-Fabinho would be better than this current Brazilian midfield.
Do you like any player we are linked with?
Sky saying a deal is close, but then again sky are full of shit.
Is he any good and is he what we need?
Is he any good and is he what we need?
As long as he replaces Fellaini I don't care how good he is.
Thanks for posting. Impressive, particularly when considering he was just 20 years old.
Could be a few apologies for Mr Luckhurst, who printed this a few days ago, and was slated by many on here.
He passes the ball forward. He's agile. He's not Fellaini. he's what we need.
No he's a stupid bumda.
I've watched him quite a lot, and not rubbish youtube vids, I mean real games, feckin hell even Bebe looked like Ronaldo on youtube. In my opinion yes, he is good, not anything super special but he has good vision of what goes on around him, good at finding those cut through passes, has a decent shot.
There is 100% room for improvement though so depending on the price I'd say this would be a good signing, unless Jose is planning on making him another defensive mid, then I'd say it is a waste of money. He does best going forward, of the ball he runs a lot, but defensively, not really the best.
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at the very first replyGood acquisition, well done to club and Jose.
So that's a no from Mourinho
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