Lets hope we still are in for him and we will try again in the comings months. World class player who will immediately reform our midfield i am just afraid that next summer other big clubs like Bayern, City, Liverpool or somebody else and his signature will be hard to get maybe we can get him if we get Champions League football.
Frenkie De Jong | Performances
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik (@Rood) was joined by comedian Ali Woods to look back at the best and worst moments of a rollercoaster season with the annual United Hour Awards.
Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
He's got Stockholm syndrome
That was the performance of a man who desperately wants to stay at Barcelona. He’s fighting for his place in that team, tooth and nail. The reports that have come out recently suggest coming here wasn’t even a option, so why we waited for him all summer who knows.
considering how stupid it all was, we still did ok in the transfer window, so can’t complain really, although frenkie next to Casemiro would be a lovely midfield.
considering how stupid it all was, we still did ok in the transfer window, so can’t complain really, although frenkie next to Casemiro would be a lovely midfield.
Barcelona will try again to sell Netherlands midfielder Frenkie de Jong, 25, in the January transfer window after a proposed £63m move to Manchester United fell through during the summer. (Forbes via 90min.com)
13.08.22. Barcelona - R.Vallecano; on in 60th minute
21.08.22. R.Sociedad - Barcelona; off in 84th minute
28.08.22. Barcelona - R.Valladolid; on in 61st minute.
03.09.22. Sevilla - Barcelona; on in 63rd minute
07.09.22. Barcelona - Plzen; played '90
10.09.22. Cadiz - Barcelona; played '90
Barcelona Griezman version? Maybe something in his contract, not to give him money they owe him? Time will tell..
21.08.22. R.Sociedad - Barcelona; off in 84th minute
28.08.22. Barcelona - R.Valladolid; on in 61st minute.
03.09.22. Sevilla - Barcelona; on in 63rd minute
07.09.22. Barcelona - Plzen; played '90
10.09.22. Cadiz - Barcelona; played '90
Barcelona Griezman version? Maybe something in his contract, not to give him money they owe him? Time will tell..
Exactly. No idea why this is so difficult to understand for some. Perhaps a wishful thinking form of projection? I don't know.
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I stumbled upon that on Twitter. Nearly every data I've seen of De Jong has further cemented my perception of him. He is not a lone 6/DM, never has been and probably never will be.
Whilst he can be deployed as DM in certain systems, he just doesn't play as such. He can get away with it when partnered in a double-pivot, but DM is just not his game — whether alone or partnered.
Now…if Ten Hag intends to continue with 4-2-3-1 long-term, there are and will be better options available. Unless there is an idea of switching to 4-3-3 further down the road, we could have a Pogba situation all over again. Round pegs in square holes etc.
De Jong is not a 6.
He is a progressive and ball-carrying 8.
He is an 8.
Period.
Seems to me like he's playing quite a lot. They have a strong team with many midfield options so he probably does not expect to start every single game anyway.
He's never going to leave Barcelona in his prime.
Looking at that he’s played nearly 3 full matches and three as a sub. With barcas midfield that seems ok to me.
I know there’s this contract / owed money issue but i very much doubt Barca had the awareness to put a clause in his re-negotiated contract when owning him £17m already to say he won’t get paid if playing less than x minutes etc.
He's their Fred, he'll get games and is a luxury rotation option. Those numbers don't justify being the second highest paid in the squad though.
This is what I’ve been saying - he isn’t a deep lying playmaker, he is a roaming playmaker that can be as deep as in line with the CB’s or as far as the opposite side of the pitch.
He will be highest paid player in the coming seasons.
Well feck. But theres still hope, if he has the syndrome but likes money we still have a chance. He is not an ignorant slut and knows where his priorities are.
If he's not a six Robbie Savage will hate him - he goes on about number sixes every game he commentates on and has done or well over a year... drives me bonkers! Mind you, he jabbers on about number eights a bit too! Frankly, all I care about is will he improve us or not. I haven't seen enough evidence to com to a decision by ETH certainly seems to have
How do we have a chance when he's already the highest paid player at one of the biggest clubs in the world?
Don't think he'd leave his dream club for Utd for a similar wage
He is a 6, and is best in a double pivot - that's where he has displayed his best football. Deploying him as an 8 in a 4-3-3 would be using a round peg in a square hole - that's where he has underwhelmed and lacked consistency, and he has said it is less suitable for his game.
What about that particular stat lends any credence to your belief that he is an 8?
If he dumps Mikky we have a chance, otherwise forget about it.
They will probably try to sell him again in January, given his wages. I have a weird feeling he ends up at City or PSG.
He can twerk for his ex-lover there then. Maybe Guardiola can simulate a barca like atmosphere in Manchester and he can decorate his bedroom nude photos of Cruyff and Messi.
Pique can come visit and stay in the guest bedroom with his fiance.
Unfortunately no, this would have solved a lot of problems for us. Busquets don't have the legs, but FDJ doesn't have the defensive discipline to play in Busquets role. Xavi has shown he will bench the old guys if there's someone better (Alba/Pique). Gavi is just a better fit even though he is just 18. I see him like a little bulldog fighting for everything.
City would be right kick in the balls for Erik
His girlfriend absolutely loves living in Barcelona, Barca is his dream club. Always have been. Xavi evidently still plays him a lot, and why wouldn’t he? Xavi has always liked De Jong.
We can try all we want (and so can the Barca board), but he simply won’t come.
We can try all we want (and so can the Barca board), but he simply won’t come.
FDJ should follow Ronaldo's step by joining in the better team.
According to the Daily Mirror: "Manchester United reportedly believe that only their own 'indecisiveness' scuppered a blockbuster deal for Frenkie de Jong in the summer - and that the Dutchman would have joined them, despite claims to the contrary."
Quite a few people here , including me, were telling them that about three days after the window opened! New faces, same old feckwits in fancy suits
Quite a few people here , including me, were telling them that about three days after the window opened! New faces, same old feckwits in fancy suits
Yes that Daily Mirror is very very convincing, as is all their reporting, clearly a factual article that should be taken as gospel, even without much logic being present in it at all.
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I just don't think he fancied it, lads. If it was us, Chelsea, City, Bayern... whoever. He's loving life at Barcelona, and he's on a fat wedge. It is what it is.
Our job now is to find an equivalent sort of midfielder with the same sort of strengths and profile to get in.
Our job now is to find an equivalent sort of midfielder with the same sort of strengths and profile to get in.
He didn't want the move, and he's clearly got what he actually wanted. No pay cut, and he's still playing for Barca.
I'd hope we go nowhere near him now to be honest, he's not the sort of character we want, simply because he doesn't really want to be here.
I'd hope we go nowhere near him now to be honest, he's not the sort of character we want, simply because he doesn't really want to be here.
Huge game against Bayern and he's on the bench.
I think he’s more of a 6-8 hybrid. A wandering, playmaking member of the double pivot. Probably more of a 6 than an 8 in terms of his natural average pitch position but, as ETH says, he is “away too often” to play as a lone 6.
Wait, Barça is controlled by Piedmon??
I imagine he will get games for their world famous basketball team.
The media have it easy!
Biggest game of their season so far and he's on the bench
He's Ten Hag's #1 priority.
Period.
At least with us, he would have started our europa league games 
Bayern could do with him too
He’s not an 8 that you would pay 85m euros for. His best position is at 6 but with energy around him.
The stat can be looked at differently in that he is a very unique no.6 in that he doesn’t need to get rid of the ball whenever he receives it because he is comfortable beating a press and travelling out from the back with the ball. That will naturally mean he spends longer with the ball than most no. 6’s.
That’s why he’s a unique 6 that ETH has been chasing so hard for.
You all need to let this one go. Like, come on now.
I think we can be fairly certain that Ten Hag is not buying De Jong to play as a lone defensive mid...
I just can’t. God knows I want to.You all need to let this one go. Like, come on now.
It must be I also have no other explanation for why some people still seem to think it. Every video I have seen where someone analyzed him they all agreed his best ability is his progressive ball carrying. He isn't completely useless defensively, but his strength isn't the defensive part of his game, but progressing the ball up the field.