Barca are going to try and pay as little as possible to him. That’s for sure. Hence the Protracted negotiations.
Frenkie de Jong | The last muppeting lap
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Has Ten Hag been sacked yet? We're not sure and we hope not, but it's looking more likely as the days pass.
Who should replace him and why is it taking so long to make a decision?
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Great post, we are caught in the middle as you say, putting all our eggs in one basket potentially losing out on easier more affordable options that we could sign now and allow us save funds to strengthen other areas of the team and squad.
Fair enough. My PTSD won't disappear this fast though.
People need to use their logic when looking at this transfer.
I keep reading people writing that FdJ doesn't want to come, Barca doesn't want to sell...so why are there still discussions of a potential transfer?
Do people not think that EtH has done is due diligence and spoke to FdJ and ascertained whether he wants to come or not?
And the other thing I keep reading is that this deal is like the Di Maria or Fabregas one's...they're not the same at all.
I keep reading people writing that FdJ doesn't want to come, Barca doesn't want to sell...so why are there still discussions of a potential transfer?
Do people not think that EtH has done is due diligence and spoke to FdJ and ascertained whether he wants to come or not?
And the other thing I keep reading is that this deal is like the Di Maria or Fabregas one's...they're not the same at all.
Absolutely!
I don't think anyone wins in this scenario, FDJ will get all his money by staying put, but will not play as much.
I share the sentiments as other who said they can't see why players want to go there.
To be fair, I think they are all trying to brave it - come across as absolutely certain if you will - we get those during every saga, one person who is absolutely sure that the deal will happen even though some have eventually fallen through.
It was the same during the Griezman 'la decision' nonsense when one of the mods here convinced himself and everyone how it was going to happen, and if you dare raise any concerns about it not happening, you were met with a flood of green smileys.
Point is, no one knows at this point what will happen. I like to think he has a slightly higher chance of joining us than not, BUT wouldn't be surprised to see FDJ stay put OR even join another club who comes in last minute after we've done all the legwork.
It does show how thick and lacking of seeing the big picture players are when they're rushing to join Barca when this sort of thing is public knowledge. It's a club in deep trouble, but hey at least you get to play at the Nou Camp.
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What happened last night?
All the reports pointing out exactly why this isn't done yet is because Barca owe him money, it's nothing to do with us, we've done our bit, they're making it drag.
So who's a good alternative. I've a bad feeling about this stupid saga.
Don’t they still owe him the money regardless of whether he stays or leaves?
It's Frenkie or bust.
Think the idea is he takes a reduced salary if he decides to stay on.
This whole saga is such a shit show tbh, if we don't get a resolution soon I think we need to start looking elsewhere. Can't waste such an important window.
Yep, think they still owe MEssi some deffered wages too.
https://www.marca.com/en/football/barcelona/2021/02/01/601812a3e2704e9f2a8b4589.html
Jesus Christ so they are actually in a position whereby they can't afford to keep him nor sell him?
Mes qué un club indeed. Football scholars will refer to this as the first known example of Schrödinger's Transfer.
Mes qué un club indeed. Football scholars will refer to this as the first known example of Schrödinger's Transfer.
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How many of those sagas had agreed deals with the other club? Everything reported so far indicates it’s very much on.
Wow.
The amount of people sarcastically quoting Mes Que Un Club. 
It was coined in the 60's by the 32nd President of the club and doesn't explicitly mean what most people think it means.
But alas.
They're a shambles these days. Bartemau really messed them up.
It was coined in the 60's by the 32nd President of the club and doesn't explicitly mean what most people think it means.
But alas.
They're a shambles these days. Bartemau really messed them up.
Really does seem ETH is desperate for FDJ. But this has been going for for a couple of months now and we really should move on if the FDJ budget will affect all the other deals we need to do.
if this happens I’m going to claim I was ITK all along
I think all parties are open to getting it done but if you use your logic also it is clear that the gaps are very wide. Barca seemingly wants the 20m in add-ones to be easily achievable on top of the 65m cash, United wanting badly to get it done but sticking tight to their position and FDJ wanting back-pay etc. It is not bad negotiation to state a deadline and be prepared to walk away. What United can’t afford is to turn this into a longer saga than it already is and impacting all the other transfers they need to do. If they drag this out for another month and at the end of the day FDJ doesn’t come then what’s the plan B?
On the surface of it, I'd have said that this deal is a non-starter, but if its true that Ten Hag & De Jong are in contact almost daily, well that suggests that De Jong is willing to join.
Perhaps Barca are trying to lump the deferred payments due to De Jong onto United...??
City already rejected that proposal
Whether he stays or moves he will get his money if it's in his contract.
More evidence that aggregator accounts should be banned on here and people should only post the original source.
I really hope that we never have to deal with Laporta ever again after this.
It's bin day.
Time to throw out this rotting saga and buy a new exciting one.
I really wish we'd just signed Gravenberch before Bayern got their cheapskate mits on him.
Time to throw out this rotting saga and buy a new exciting one.
I really wish we'd just signed Gravenberch before Bayern got their cheapskate mits on him.
I'm guessing it'll be done sooner rather than later. Definitely not before we go on tour but before the start of the season.
Barca want to make their own signings, so I imagine they'll want the money from his sale quickly. Let's see what happens today and tomorrow
Barca want to make their own signings, so I imagine they'll want the money from his sale quickly. Let's see what happens today and tomorrow
In the standoff between De Jong and Barca over the money he is owed, it makes total sense for De Jong to let it be known publicly that he wants to stay.
It puts all the pressure on Barcelona as they can't say "oh he wants to leave so we shouldn't have to pay him" while painting themselves as the good guys.
If they want to sell him, they will have to instigate it and they will have to pay him what he's owed. He's playing it exactly right.
Ill not believe a thing until FdJ is pictured at OT wearing the new top.
Why on earth would Barca hand out these insane contracts in the first place? I mean players would have joined them if they offered a decent salary.
Think De Jong would've joined PSG otherwise
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Because before covid they thought they could just do whatever they wanted. Embarrassing.
They gave Messi an insane contract and soon they had other players in the squad demanding more. Was only a matter of time before new transfers did the same.
If united pay up for him, we get him. Make a offer Barca can’t refuse, he is ours.
this could literally go either way, united clearly ain’t paying more for him so it’s a game of poker at this point. Could go either way.
problem with all this is, the teams around us are seriously strengthening.. and they are already miles ahead of us, we need players that will have a instant impact on the squad, we need frenkie to be in this team and in that midfield ASAP.
this could literally go either way, united clearly ain’t paying more for him so it’s a game of poker at this point. Could go either way.
problem with all this is, the teams around us are seriously strengthening.. and they are already miles ahead of us, we need players that will have a instant impact on the squad, we need frenkie to be in this team and in that midfield ASAP.
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