Could a team like chelsea come in and pay the difference to DJ and scupper our deal ?
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Well yes, but players have agents who they rely on to look after the contractual stuff. It does look like Frenkie's didn't do a very thorough job if the question wasn't considered of what happens to the arrears/deferred wages in the event that he leaves before the rescheduled payments are complete. Even more so in the event that the club pushes him out.
Point being we are not still chasing them/insisting on the transfer, I think.
Im at the store and saw a Coffee machine called de jong, it take it as a sign its a done deal.
Aye, people keep saying that, but if Barça make a deal for the owed wages to get him out, he’ll go. Players in their prime simply don’t stay at clubs who desperately want them to leave and who treat them like this.
His currently salary is way over the cap... well at least what he is expected to earn next season and especially the following season
They do not and that's net
And rightly so. There are literally dozens of midfielders that we could target that are better than Fred and McTominay but it looks like that will be our midfield if FdJ doesn’t sign. Very worrying.
I just hope we spend the money on a decent striker now this one is dead in the water. Simply can’t afford to wait and wait and end up with nothing at all at the end of the window.
It would be a terrible bit of decision making from him and the club to be fair. But we will, so it's ok.
Ten Hag also likes Youri Tielemans, but Tielemans prefers Arsenal at this time, so I can see why United haven't necessarily pushed for him as of yet.
It's just a little airborne...
One way or another. Yes or yes.
Yes. We shouldn't go after players that don't want to join us right
Poor way of thinking. Yes there are plenty of better players than McTominay but that does not make them good enough for us and it is a waste of money to buy a player who will need upgrading in the next window. Rebuilds require patience.
If he is a Barca player he is contracted and will be paid an amount that includes the wage he deferred. If he transfers then they owe him nothing because of the dumb/cunning way the deferral was handled. He seems to be asking Barca to reimburse him the wages he deferred before he leaves the club, but they are not legally obliged to pay him a cent extra, and are being a bit shitty about the whole thing.
We cannot do that, it’s not legal.
It's not a poor way of thinking, if there are plenty of better midfielders then McTominay then we should go for them, if then a midfielder appears who's better than them we should go for them and the new midfielder gets bumped down, and McTominay gets bumped out because he's clearly not good enough to be a squad player at that point
All I’m willing to say at present is it’ll be raining cats and de Jongs in Manchester come Thursday night.
Bank on this.
He can set what he likes…. for new/future contracts.
But he can do jack sh!t about de Jongs… unless de Jong agrees to it. And funnily enough, I think he might not trust Barca.
With the 2nd lever? Im not sure they do. I cant keep up with all their fecking levers. They're stuck re. FDJ, even if they pay him whats owed, he'll still refuse to go IMO. It's win win for him.
So they have to now pay him his new wages inflated by the amount deferred - which they can’t.
Absolutely. The sensible thing would be a compromise, but both sides seem unwilling at this point.
A sign! A sign! You can't spell "Manchester United" without machine, after all.
Is it a €17m coffee machine?
Imo the only sensible thing would be Barca pay what they own him.
Times change. Clubs change. They want him to go now, but the same may not be true by next summer, he could perform well, Xavi could not work out as manager, who knowes.
De Jong may just think I want to play for Barca, I’m happy here I’ll stick it out and if it doesn’t work out I maybe I’ll have more options than just United next summer.
That’s a completely reasonable stance to take if that’s what he is doing.
Well its free, so i guess maybe it was luuk
Ten Hag kinda making it sounds like De Jong or nobody.
If that's the case next season is fecked if we don't get him
If that's the case next season is fecked if we don't get him
I didnt knew it was net, but still 10M net is roughly 16.3M gross. Which is around 300K per week, which means they're expecting De Jong to either leave or cut his wages.
The senior muppets on this thread will laugh at you and ask for a threadban for suggesting FDJ wants to go anywhere other than United. That kinda thread
I mean... well yeah...
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Oh god. There a chance we might go into this season with our current Midfield
It certainly won’t look great for Arnold and Murtough. We don’t know what will happen, but this saga could haunt them for a while. Especially when they are trying to clean up the image of the club with regards to recruitment and transfers.
They’ll look like idiots if after chasing for potentially 3 months, they come out with nothing.
I like the 'de Jong or noone' approach. Better to try and develop some of the talents we got + plus Eriksen can continue to play deep instead of spending a ton on backup players not even close to FdJ's quality.
It's not logical in any sense of the word. Other Barca players aren't leaving, so they'll get their suspended earnings over the course of their contracts. And they've agreed to take a pay cut for a reason.
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Oh god. There a chance we might go into this season with our current Midfield
We have signed Eriksen and got Garner back after an impressive loan spell. Also Savage and Iqbal have impressed and Martinez can also play a hybrid CB/CM role. There isn't much cheap stopgap qualities left on the market. Tielemans and Neves is not someone we should go for.Tweet
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The idea that FDJ is the only player out there who can do that job is...
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