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This will make or break our summer , i still belive it will happen but its got me worried how long its taking. Anyway we have Zidane hes got our backs !
Kessie played very well!Significant that Kessie started ahead of him? Another hint? Did he get on as a sub?
Its almost like North Korean level of PR.Barca are, of course, bald faced liars. If Lewandowski joined them it's because they offered more money than us, not less. It's that simple.
And there's nothing wrong with that either. But according to Barca PR, players always take a wage cut to join them, always. Because, let's be honest, the honour of playing for this great club is compensation in itself.
Kind of a difficult narrative to hold on to when your club is on the brink of collapse due to the height of your wage bill, but they're holding on to it no less
I have something against sneaky cnuts pretending she rules his life just so they can stick up photos of her.Do you have something against family photos?
Come to terms with it.For the first time during the saga, I no longer think this is happening.
Yes. Second halfSignificant that Kessie started ahead of him? Another hint? Did he get on as a sub?
Dont be poking fun at his sister.What kind of name is Mikky anyway?
Who are you kidding? Wives rule.I have something against sneaky cnuts pretending she rules his life just so they can stick up photos of her.
Very good, that will have him much closer to full fitnes for the Brighton game.He played the entire second half in the first pre season match
Yep, in the second half, but they played him in defence…Significant that Kessie started ahead of him? Another hint? Did he get on as a sub?
Pleading the Fontaine defence. The last recurse of the uninspiredThis phone. Ffs
Fixed for you.There seems to be some sort of competition between Sport & Marca, on who can print the most bullshit.
That's what I mean. If that is our stance, to expect him to just change his mind and walk away from the money, then it's ridiculous like I said.Would anyone forego $17m?! I find that hard to believe to be honest. Maybe he's happy to wait a year or two, collect part of what he's owed and reassess down the line. He's in a pretty strong position.
Yes. Second half
Interesting. If that’s not a message I don’t know what is….. thanks chaps!Yep, in the second half, but they played him in defence…
Even more reason to buy him, he can play defenceYep, in the second half, but they played him in defence…
Agreed. We should strive to be like them.Chelsea don’t sign players - players sign Chelsea. Such a wonderful football club that every player dreams of playing for.
De Jong CB Martinez DM lets goEven more reason to buy him, he can pay defence
Because they can't do that without the agreement of Barcelona?Sure it's been answered and is probably a stupid question but why can't United subtract the amount from the fee and just pay De Jong the 17 mil.
Maybe we can pay pique's wages too?Sure it's been answered and is probably a stupid question but why can't United subtract the amount from the fee and just pay De Jong the 17 mil.
Ja ja Ja! United revolution! Frenkie in defense, Lisandro at CM, Scott as striker and Fred at LBEven more reason to buy him, he can pay defence
If Barca have any hope of selling at his current price then they can't do anything that will drive down his price. Perhaps they'd try again next summer, but they will need to play him regularly (which I think they will) to keep his value up.And he might after playing a few more times in defence and eating bench, decide that a 8.5m payoff (rather than 17), the extra United agreed, is fine, and that it’s just not worth staying.
So ”change his mind” could mean many things.
Probably because Barca will want the agreed fee and not 17m less, else they could pay De Jong themselves.Sure it's been answered and is probably a stupid question but why can't United subtract the amount from the fee and just pay De Jong the 17 mil.
Delete that picture pal... Barca execs will be on to you ASAP! They don't need their "lever" being exposed! hahaNew lever.
Money printing machine lever
I'm sure that could be arranged. However, Barca simply wants the extra 17 million for themselves.Sure it's been answered and is probably a stupid question but why can't United subtract the amount from the fee and just pay De Jong the 17 mil.
Ah, I see. Yep I agree that I am growing increasingly sceptical it'll happen. I guess it depends how eager Barcelona genuinely are in wanting him out of the club. They've taken on loads of players this summer who won't be playing for a pittance. They still owe Pique huge sums as well. I wouldn't be surprised if they were hoping we'd cough up more to cover De Jong's owed wages. Feels like a game of chicken at the moment.That's what I mean. If that is our stance, to expect him to just change his mind and walk away from the money, then it's ridiculous like I said.
Come on Frenkie, the disrespect!Kessie played very well!
Yes FDJ got on at half time and played as a CB
Apparently we can't due to tax reasons or something. It seems to be more complicated than just paying off De Jong, although I don't see how it would be a problem if we just remove 17 mill from the transfer fee and give FDJ a 17 mill signing on fee.Sure it's been answered and is probably a stupid question but why can't United subtract the amount from the fee and just pay De Jong the 17 mil.
I keep seeing that mentioned, but is there another source? As far as I know, only this guy mentioned it, and only onceTweet
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Rafael van der VaartWhat is the Dutch for major shit show?
I imagine it would need FDJ to contractually agree to not receiving the deferred wages, knowing that he would then get an extra €17million signing on fee from United.Tweet
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Why would barca agree?Sure it's been answered and is probably a stupid question but why can't United subtract the amount from the fee and just pay De Jong the 17 mil.
Sadly both of them options at the moment seem to be none movers. Barca just don't want to pay him what he wants and de Jong refuses to take a pay cut again.I imagine it would need FDJ to contractually agree to not receiving the deferred wages, knowing that he would then get an extra €17million signing on fee from United.
However, this just sounds like a logistic nightmare from a legal POV. Can’t imagine it working and we’re talking about a silly amount of money moving around and from different parties.
The only way this is solved is if Barcelona pay him outright what he owed so he moves on, or FDJ takes a pay cut to stay.
It's the fact that we've agreed a fee already though, including us paying an extra 10m euros up front, which makes me think we won't throw any more money at this. I wouldn't be sure we even have the money to pay them the extra 17m euros + bonuses he believes he is owed. I read somewhere that the total that de Jong may be owed is probably closer to 30m euros! That isn't a situation that will be resolved in the near future.Ah, I see. Yep I agree that I am growing increasingly sceptical it'll happen. I guess it depends how eager Barcelona genuinely are in wanting him out of the club. They've taken on loads of players this summer who won't be playing for a pittance. They still owe Pique huge sums as well. I wouldn't be surprised if they were hoping we'd cough up more to cover De Jong's owed wages. Feels like a game of chicken at the moment.
The problem is he's not technically owed anything. FDJ sees it as him being owed, but technically he agreed for a cut in his salary providing he get's an increase in his salary later on, now Barcelona is trying to get rid of him before the increase is activated.I imagine it would need FDJ to contractually agree to not receiving the deferred wages, knowing that he would then get an extra €17million signing on fee from United.
However, this just sounds like a logistic nightmare from a legal POV. Can’t imagine it working and we’re talking about a silly amount of money moving around and from different parties.
The only way this is solved is if Barcelona pay him outright what he owed so he moves on, or FDJ takes a pay cut to stay.
According to Capology Lewandowskis salary is 360K weekly gross until jun 30th which equals 56m for three years. That being said Lewandowski didn't go to Barca for the wage. It surely won't last forever but as long as Barca wants to play the possession game I think it will remain THE club players want to play for.According to the rumors, Lewandowski has also agreed to take up a lowered salary during the final two years of his contract. Barcelona will also have an option to terminate his contract in the final two years of his deal by paying a compensation fee. Finally, Barça paid €45+5m to Bayern and €20m in commission to Zahavi.
- So Bayern's renewal offer was €12m p.a for 2 years = €24m total
- Barça's offer supposedly is €9m p.a. for 3 years = €27m total, plus one year optional.
Seems like everyone got paid except poor old Lewandowski!
If you believe the Barça salary numbers, Lewandowski kicked up a fuss for an extra guaranteed €3m. I think he could have easily achieved that by playing at Munich for 2 years and signing up for another team for in year 3 for €3-4m. It just doesn't add up, but this is Barcelona's MO - a lot of bullshit.
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