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[Massive Spanner]

Watched the season six finale last night, it really is an incredibly episode of TV. They've always been a bit shit at finales in previous seasons but they absolutely nailed that, and the cut to Jon's face with the music is still the best scene in the whole show imo.

Although the writing was on the wall for the time travel in it. Arya going from Braavos to the Frey's, and killing his sons in the space of an episode is as bad as anything in season seven.

 

[RobinLFC]

Need you to give a timeline guess for s8 based on s7 viewing. Carry on the Robin tradition.

That's Rob in a microwave

I've read the books so I didn't want to confuse the storylines, that's why I really needed to re-watch S7. I had forgotten where half of the characters were in the show at this point.

 

[dumbo]

I'm going to prepare by watching the entire series of Five Children and It.

 

[SuperiorXI]

I'm going to wait until I've paid my Mortgage before I watch it so I can enjoy it properly.

 

[Sylar]

That's Rob in a microwave

I've read the books so I didn't want to confuse the storylines, that's why I really needed to re-watch S7. I had forgotten where half of the characters were in the show at this point.

Yeah but hes blocked.

 

[McLovin]

This is great:

Banner says in Arabic: 'The citizens of Beirut stand in support with Jon Snow for his upcoming battle with the white walkers'

Talk about a global phenomenon...a GOT banner over a road in Beirut.

 

[Irrational.]

I'm still working my way through Season 5 at the moment and it's such a slog. I don't think I'll finish before the first episode of season 8 is aired.

My main worry is that it's going to be impossible to avoid spoilers. There will always be some knobhead on facebook, a thread on reddit or a BBC headline that will try and ruin it.

Anyone have any ideas on how to stop it from being ruined?

 

[RedSky]

For anyone who reads Arabic, this is great.

It says 'The citizens of Beirut stand in support with Jon Snow for his upcoming battle with the white walkers'

Talk about a global phenomenon...a GOT banner over a road in Beirut.

Brilliant.

 

[Redlambs]

Ugh, me and the missus watched S7 to prepare, you forget just how terrible the writing became. The whole walking through the snow talking to each other was straight out of walking dead, and the invisible red shirts

It's lowered our expectations for S8, but hopefully that's a good thing.

 

[DatIrishFella]

Tried watching this once on Sky Atlantic. It has ad breaks. Ad breaks. What the feck is a channel you PAY EXTRA for doing having ad breaks?

I stick to reporting those torrents.

 

[sullydnl]

Ugh, me and the missus watched S7 to prepare, you forget just how terrible the writing became. The whole walking through the snow talking to each other was straight out of walking dead, and the invisible red shirts

It's lowered our expectations for S8, but hopefully that's a good thing.

I'd forgotten about them.

There's a strong argument for that being the worst episode of GOT.

 

[Massive Spanner]

invisible red shirts?

 

[RedSky]

invisible red shirts?

He's talking about the random Wildlings that get killed.

 

[Massive Spanner]

i still can't remember.

that episode was just the worst, though.

 

[RedSky]

i still can't remember.

that episode was just the worst, though.

I need to rewatch the last Season, i'll probably binge it this weekend. I dont' remember it being that bad, just the reasoning for the adventure was dumb as feck not to mention they crammed it in one episode, when prior Seasons they made a big deal of how slow and dangerous it was to go North of the wall.

 

[Art Vandelay]

I'd forgotten about them.

There's a strong argument for that being the worst episode of GOT.

Well it didn't have any Dorne in it so that's a plus at least.

 

[sullydnl]

I need to rewatch the last Season, i'll probably binge it this weekend. I dont' remember it being that bad, just the reasoning for the adventure was dumb as feck not to mention they crammed it in one episode, when prior Seasons they made a big deal of how slow and dangerous it was to go North of the wall.

The problem was there were like four or five really stupid things in quick succession that undermined the episode. The one wight they need to capture conveniently surviving when the White Walker is killed, the random red shirts appearing just so they could be killed, Gendry sprinting for help and the help arriving in crazy time, Jon being dragged under water (but somehow surviving), Jon being saved out of nowhere by Benjen (who for no apparent reason sacrifices himself), etc. It was remarkable how poorly written it was.

 

[RedSky]

The problem was there were like four or five really stupid things in quick succession that undermined the episode. The one wight they need to capture conveniently surviving when the White Walker is killed, the random red shirts appearing just so they could be killed, Gendry sprinting for help and the help arriving in crazy time, Jon being dragged under water (but somehow surviving), Jon being saved out of nowhere by Benjen (who for no apparent reason sacrifices himself), etc. It was remarkable how poorly written it was.

I can imagine George's notes:

*Jon Snow and Friends ride North of the Wall and capture a Wight.

Tv Writers scream and spend days trying to brainstorm the episode.

 

[Ballache]

This is great:

Banner says in Arabic: 'The citizens of Beirut stand in support with Jon Snow for his upcoming battle with the white walkers'

Talk about a global phenomenon...a GOT banner over a road in Beirut.

We Lebanese are far from perfect but you can't knock our sense of Humour

 

[Redlambs]

I need to rewatch the last Season, i'll probably binge it this weekend. I dont' remember it being that bad, just the reasoning for the adventure was dumb as feck not to mention they crammed it in one episode, when prior Seasons they made a big deal of how slow and dangerous it was to go North of the wall.

Trust me dude, the spectacle is great, but the whole season has to be the worst in terms of writing and things just happening to suit. On first viewing I didn't think it was that bad at times, just stupid, but I'd compare what actually happens to any season of TWD in stupidity. They threw all logic and politics out of the window and made every single character a caricature.

I mean, even the death of LF was just plain stupid when you rewatch. I mean the build up was ridiculously poor, they really didn't handle that well.

 

[Massive Spanner]

The problem was there were like four or five really stupid things in quick succession that undermined the episode. The one wight they need to capture conveniently surviving when the White Walker is killed, the random red shirts appearing just so they could be killed, Gendry sprinting for help and the help arriving in crazy time, Jon being dragged under water (but somehow surviving), Jon being saved out of nowhere by Benjen (who for no apparent reason sacrifices himself), etc. It was remarkable how poorly written it was.

I don't think the rest of the season was bad but that whole episode was nonsense. There's also the undead bear they decided to throw in because.. I dunno.. undead bear? I saw an interview with D&D where they said they'd been asking for an undead bear for the last few seasons but were refused because of budget costs, so finally got it in this season due to the increased budget. It made it sound like they don't give a feck anymore and will just throw in whatever they think is cool for the fun of it.

 

[RedSky]

Trust me dude, the spectacle is great, but the whole season has to be the worst in terms of writing and things just happening to suit. On first viewing I didn't think it was that bad at times, just stupid, but I'd compare what actually happens to any season of TWD in stupidity. They threw all logic and politics out of the window and made every single character a caricature.

I mean, even the death of LF was just plain stupid when you rewatch. I mean the build up was ridiculously poor, they really didn't handle that well.

Oh I can't stand the writing, it's been terrible since the book material ran out. But I can overlook that when they deliver setpieces like the Gold Convoy

The difference between GoT and TWD is that one show has excellent characters and the other has characters which are so dull and shite that you cheer the enemy on to destroy them every episode.

 

[Redlambs]

I don't think the rest of the season was bad but that whole episode was nonsense. There's also the undead bear they decided to throw in because.. I dunno.. undead bear? I saw an interview with D&D where they said they'd been asking for an undead bear for the last few seasons but were refused because of budget costs, so finally got it in this season due to the increased budget. It made it sound like they don't give a feck anymore and will just throw in whatever they think is cool for the fun of it.

The dragon pit was cringe as feck, the whole snow/dany storyline was too. Tyrion and Jaimie were also so terrible in what was written for them to do, but the worst thing all season was definitely the conversations between the main characters that met up. Especially the knowing smile between Hound and Brienne. Euron. Just so much terrible all through, I didn't realise on first veiwing.

 

[Redlambs]

Oh I can't stand the writing, it's been terrible since the book material ran out. But I can overlook that when they deliver setpieces like the Gold Convoy

The difference between GoT and TWD is that one show had excellent characters and the other has characters which are so dull and shite that you cheer the enemy on to destroy them every episode.

Fixed for you

And yeah, we are still excited for the set pieces. But that's not what got us hooked, the story was. It's a shame is all.

 

[gza the genius]

Anyone have any comprehensive YouTube compilations of all the seasons? I've looked but most of them don't seem all that informative.

I've seen all of the seasons but only once when they originally aired so I'm definitely very rusty on my knowledge of what's going on.

 

[RedSky]

The dragon pit was cringe as feck, the whole snow/dany storyline was too. Tyrion and Jaimie were also so terrible in what was written for them to do, but the worst thing all season was definitely the conversations between the main characters that met up. Especially the knowing smile between Hound and Brienne. Euron. Just so much terrible all through, I didn't realise on first veiwing.

Dragon Pit was good imo. All of the Daenerys/Jon storyline was done well. But they dropped the ball on Kings Landing and Winterfell, I mean the whole plotting against Littlefinger started off well when they had a little family meeting when Bran gave the dagger to Arya but after that it got a bit odd. My guess is that they hammed it up for two reasons, 1. To add some drama, 2. As the Starks had no idea if Littlefinger had any spies listening in on them. It was written in a very unintelligent way though and thats ultimately the problem. The TV writers simply don't have any genuine skill in storyline crafting. Having said all that, I do think i'm probably a bit more critical about the show now than I was back when it first started,

 

[RedSky]

Fixed for you

And yeah, we are still excited for the set pieces. But that's not what got us hooked, the story was. It's a shame is all.

Nah, I don't buy that. The only character which has plummeted a bit is Tyrion imo and thats only since he stopped drinking.

 

[Redlambs]

Dragon Pit was good imo. All of the Daenerys/Jon storyline was done well. But they dropped the ball on Kings Landing and Winterfell, I mean the whole plotting against Littlefinger started off well when they had a little family meeting when Bran gave the dagger to Arya but after that it got a bit odd. My guess is that they hammed it up for two reasons, 1. To add some drama, 2. As the Starks had no idea if Littlefinger had any spies listening in on them. It was written in a very unintelligent way though and thats ultimately the problem. The TV writers simply don't have any genuine skill in storyline crafting. Having said all that, I do think i'm probably a bit more critical about the show now than I was back when it first started,

You are probably less tbh

 

[McLovin]

We Lebanese are far from perfect but you can't knock our sense of Humour

Incredible

 

[Art Vandelay]

I don't think the rest of the season was bad but that whole episode was nonsense. There's also the undead bear they decided to throw in because.. I dunno.. undead bear? I saw an interview with D&D where they said they'd been asking for an undead bear for the last few seasons but were refused because of budget costs, so finally got it in this season due to the increased budget. It made it sound like they don't give a feck anymore and will just throw in whatever they think is cool for the fun of it.

It's been that way for quite a while, there was a quote from around season 5-ish I can't recall the context exactly, but it involved something that made no sense and their explanation being "It made narrative sense because we wanted it to happen."

Not to harp on about it, but there's also Dorne. That was the real evidence they were going for what seemed cool rather than what worked narratively. Replacing Aryanne with the Sand Snakes is just a bad idea, they only seem cool in the books because they aren't really involved and you only see them through the lens of Aryanne's view of them. When you actually try to deal with them as characters they fall apart. Combine that with changing the storyline because they liked an actresses angry face kind of shows where the priorities went.

I think they only really wanted to do up until the red wedding, afterwards they didn't care as much.

 

[Solius]

I can wait for this tbh. Got so much other stuff I need to watch, but obviously I'll watch this as soon as.

 

[Irwin99]

Season 7 was the worst but i'm optimistic about 8. I'm actually going to miss Cersei, such a great character.

 

[Eboue]

politics is the real game of thrones if you think about it

 

[dumbo]

What a terrible way to waste a thought.

 

[Eboue]

ive got 14 thoughts left so im not worried

 

[Sylar]

The problem was there were like four or five really stupid things in quick succession that undermined the episode. The one wight they need to capture conveniently surviving when the White Walker is killed, the random red shirts appearing just so they could be killed, Gendry sprinting for help and the help arriving in crazy time, Jon being dragged under water (but somehow surviving), Jon being saved out of nowhere by Benjen (who for no apparent reason sacrifices himself), etc. It was remarkable how poorly written it was.

Im waiting for you to explain how the WW got a huge ass amount of chains to bring the dragon up (I can even accept, that some wights who cant swim were sacrificed and are stuck in the water as they put the chains around the dragon).

 

[Mr Pigeon]

I need to rewatch the last Season, i'll probably binge it this weekend. I dont' remember it being that bad, just the reasoning for the adventure was dumb as feck not to mention they crammed it in one episode, when prior Seasons they made a big deal of how slow and dangerous it was to go North of the wall.

Watched the season again last week. Once you accept that the pacing is ramped up it isn't as bad as it was first time, although characters still do things that are out of character because the plot dictates it. Also Petyr went out like a lil bitch

 

[Ish]

A bit random and also not sure if this has been posted but Jaime Lannister is a Leeds fan

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[The Cat]

A bit random and also not sure if this has been posted but Jaime Lannister is a Leeds fan

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Hope he gets his head cut off then

 

[Ish]

Hope he gets his head cut off then

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