Only gammon tories would take issue with it.
Gary Neville - Pundit
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In the latest episode of the United Hour Podcast, Nik and Imran discuss United's thrilling but ultimately disappointing 3-3 draw with Galatsaray. They talk Onana, our fading hopes of getting out of the group, and whether we want Europa League football or not.
They also discuss a comfortable (?) win at Everton and probably don't spend long enough talking about THAT goal and Kobbie Mainoo.
Finishing with a look ahead to a punishing December schedule which will make or break the season.
And therein lies the problem with the UK population, never making enough noise to make a change.
You can curl up with that article while the NHS, education and most public services crumble.
I'm no fan of Keir Starmer or Blair. But bringing this up in defence of the Tories is fecking backwards looking and pointless.
I'm glad Neville brought it up. It is a major part of everyone's life in the UK and is relevant when taking about workers rights in Qatar.
He is.
Interestingly he had Matt Le Tissier on his show a few weeks ago and he didn't tell him just to stick to football.
Farage couldn't wait to discuss mad Matts love of conspiracy theories!
Indeed. He's upsetting all the right people as far as I can see. Who are the snowflakes now?
You can be a hypocrite and still be right after all.
100%. This forum is so fecking weird.
This is a government that decided the best way to thank its medical staff was with pots, pans and vibes rather than actual f ucking money.
I’d be livid if that was me.
Good on Gary for highlighting that as well as what he’s highlighted about Qatar.
As Ian Hislop pointed out when you're taking money from a Qatari held World Cup you're in no position to preach.
Neville is getting into politics and this is more self serving crap when people want to enjoy football and not be patronised.
Neville is getting into politics and this is more self serving crap when people want to enjoy football and not be patronised.
They are all the same when it’s someone who agrees with them. It’s amazing how they bang on about free speech but can’t take it when someone actually uses it. Remember when they told Obama to stay out of Uk politics but they gave Trump free reign to say what he wants.
I don't get this.
We live in a global world. Many of us work for large multinationals, buy all our clothes and our products from factories in China, travel to all these countries on holiday - does that mean we're also not allowed to criticise our government's and their policies?
@Farage - we paid you to be an MEP so pot, kettle, black springs to mind
You are but it rings hollow under these specific circumstances.
Why?
Neville is using the platform he was given to criticise them. I say why not? Sure it might be hypocritical but at least he's pissing off thundercnuts like Farage.
You can stay at home and criticise them as Hislop pointed out. That's my last word on it btw.
He’s been criticising them way before the World Cup so this isn’t anything new. They just weren’t happy because they knew people were watching.
yes, the multiple problems the UK is facing definitely aren't getting enough noise. The 24/7 news cycle about them isn't enough. The mass strikes and discontent. The marches, the riots, the motorway protests, the endless stream of social media live tweeting about every politicians latest gaffe. Better post more on redcafeFor the last time I'm out of this thread. Just blatant lying going on at this point
But for each of those events, there is a Politician feeding misinformation on every news channel, social media etc. They don’t like it when a platform which could reach a lot of people is used to tell the truth to contradict them.
For the last time I'm out of this thread. Just blatant lying going on at this point
Not sure what lying you are referring to.
Oh agree, the right wing have really ran out of any ideas. Their answer seems to be to point at anything they don’t like and to called it socialist, while undermining basic democratic rights.
There seems to be a very basic denial that when economic/social conditions get worse then politics will become more relevant. It’s unavoidable and simply
Yeah I’m not Gary biggest fan but it would be odd for people to not give him credit for this.
So the only way he can criticize this government is to not do his job?
To be fair, I guess that way he would have something in common with them.
What I don’t get is that he is talking about the lack of workers rights but then comparing it to the UK and saying we are a shambles. I know that most of you will disagree here but the Strike action to me is showing the exact opposite, surely the right to strike is absolutely massive. Think about all the positive changes that industrial action and unions have brought to this country over the last 200 years. Working hours, fair pay, safety, these are all things that we take for granted now but sounds like they did not have at all for the WC.
Surely rather than advertising is as a shit show he should be saying this is what the Quatari’s should be doing to bring in positive change too?
Or we could all stick to the party line that our country has absolutely abhorrent workers rights and we should have a 20% pay rise for all?
Surely rather than advertising is as a shit show he should be saying this is what the Quatari’s should be doing to bring in positive change too?
Or we could all stick to the party line that our country has absolutely abhorrent workers rights and we should have a 20% pay rise for all?
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I have and seems he pays tax, unless we going back to a article in 2004 linking him to a possible avoidance, but yeah he's just the same as the rest.
@ escapism while ranting about labour and the RA.You just annoyed because what he is saying has rattled you in some way, and I suspect it's because he attacking your side.
They just let IRA sympathisers like Claire Fox into the house of lords instead.
Part of me thinks it’s so very deliberate. The history books tell us outright that for massive changes to happen then the proletariat do actually need assistance from some of those in the position of privilege. The attacks on those who have the position of privilege who will use that spot to support people is to try stopping them doing so knowing they would be the biggest threat to the status quo, and what’s the best way to stop them? By turning them into the bad guy in the eyes of the people they’re trying to help, because who wants to help people who attack you for helping.
But hey, as we can see some people fall right into it. It’s so daft to fall for such a blatant ploy.
https://amp.theguardian.com/uk-news...ick-to-football-after-workers-rights-comments
The usual ‘stick to football’ line. Now from the PM.
Rattled.
The usual ‘stick to football’ line. Now from the PM.
Rattled.
I'm not sure if you've noticed, but the government is planning to take away some of those rights - having already banned meaningful protests
It's very odd that people can't agree with someone about one thing because they disagree with them about another thing.
blame Brexit for that...
Remind me who it was that elected the son of a KGB agent in to the house of lords again?
Might want to see what the Tories are proposing in NI now buddy
If that's the amnesty thing, I thought that was just for the army/ruc and not pira, inla, soar Eire, uda, uff, lvf, uvf and the rest of the other scumbag cowardly twats like the shankill butchers ?
It’s striking how you’re not including the army in your little rant never mind the RUC that had to be disbanded due to collusion with loyalists that led to the murder of men, women and children but that’s a different story.
And no, it doesn’t just apply to just those two organisations but to everybody. A Tory bill here in 2022.
What the feck is your problem, eh ? What the feck are you talking about, "rant" I asked you a bloody question, (was it the amnesty thing for which the Tories don't want ex women and kiddie killing army, ruc and B wankers charged but just the groups I named) was what you were talking about, and you react like a child throwing its toys of out its fecking pram.
Now the above like your reply is a fecking rant, learn the difference.
I’m correcting your Labour claim. It’s you who seems to have thrown your toys out of the pram.
Do you know why they want the bill Introduced? It’s to not investigate their own, decades long campaign of killing British citizens in Northern Ireland through collusion with loyalists. This bill stops that.
When you’re preaching about murders don’t separate the army and RUC with the other groups you mentioned. They’re every bit the murdering bastards as well.
Oh for feck stake, I never said those vile bastards didn't kill innocents. Like a week before bloody Sunday the hard men of the british army shot an 11 yr old girl dead IN DERRY, shot her in the back, or when they pumped 150 bullets into a car carrying three16 yr olds that didn't stop, 75 of those bullets after it came to a stop, so I know the army, cops killed many and were killing innocent catholics and prods and blaming the ra or uda, just like I know they helped the uda bomb Dublin and Monaghan, kill Pat FInucane looking to start an all out war as Tim Pat Googan pointed out in his books many a time, both sets were as bad as each other.
Tommy absolutely isn't ranting here.
You are exactly the kind of person that he, and we, are trying to look after.
Such incredible conceit and narcissism. To announce to a stranger on a football forum that you're 'trying to look after' them,it's hard to fathom.
If you care about my thoughts I have other posts here. I'm absolutely not getting involved in this sort of online hyperbole. I'm asking nicely to please not engage me further