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Mason Greenwood likes this (joking of course)Couldn't give a monkies what a player does off the pitch as long as it doesn't affect what they do on the pitch.
Mason Greenwood likes this (joking of course)Couldn't give a monkies what a player does off the pitch as long as it doesn't affect what they do on the pitch.
nah. itll ruin are game. i would of thought the fa will have to implement quarters instead of halfs as the gays won’t be able to go a whole 45 minutes without stopping and discussing there feelings. theyll demand the ball is made pink and the goals circular to soften the aesthetics and add more balance to the pitch. clubs will have to trade players for potpuree instead of money. instead of a minutes silence for are troops on remembrance sunday they’ll be a minute of sobbing and everyone in the ground will have to post it on instagram or a bent steward will throw you out of the ground. each goal will be greeted with techno music and kick offs will be moved to 2am as the gays like to stay out late at night. all this is only happening because people are considering voting for starmer.I may be very naive but I don’t think there’ll be major abuse. Or at least any more than is shouted at football matches already. The groundswell of public opinion will be supportive and he will have loads of opportunities to move the public discourse along, in much the same way as Rashford has. Plus, though I’m sure it won’t factor into his thinking, there will be huge opportunities to monetise this if he’s inclined.
It’s a massive sociological thing where sports are seen as masculine, and for generations gay men were characterised as “not real men” and not capable of being “manly” which kinda bleeds into the being involved in sport = not feminine so much more likely to have a chunk of gay participants. There’s also the societal thing of women (in large) being more accepting of peoples differencesWhy is it seemingly "easier" for women footballers to come out as gay, and even date their teammates, then it is for males to do likewise??
For example, hypothetically speaking here, what would be so wrong if Shaw and Sancho were to date each other??
We have had a gay manager in charger of our women's team in Casey, and gay players such as Amy Turner, yet nothing seemingly on the same level with regards to the men's team, it is very odd to have such a huge contrast at the same club.
feck off, stop being a prick.Because Lesbians are hot!
Because the assholes making it impossible for gay players to come out, don’t give a shit about womens football anyway. That’s not even a sport in their mind. So why even bother with „protecting“ it from the gays?Why is it seemingly "easier" for women footballers to come out as gay, and even date their teammates, then it is for males to do likewise??
For example, hypothetically speaking here, what would be so wrong if Shaw and Sancho were to date each other??
We have had a gay manager in charger of our women's team in Casey, and gay players such as Amy Turner, yet nothing seemingly on the same level with regards to the men's team, it is very odd to have such a huge contrast at the same club.
I think that the bolded is part of the reason why the type of player to come out could be significant. For example, Gareth Thomas was the first openly gay rugby player and he was an absolutely fearless warrior of a player (he captained Wales and is one of their most capped players). It meant that nobody could use the "effeminate" stereotype which probably helped the perception of gay players within the game. For example, if Vidic was gay it would probably have helped the perception of gay people whereas if a young Ronaldo had come out as gay, not so much as he has perceived as a bit of a diving stepover aficionado.It’s a massive sociological thing where sports are seen as masculine, and for generations gay men were characterised as “not real men” and not capable of being “manly” which kinda bleeds into the being involved in sport = not feminine so much more likely to have a chunk of gay participants. There’s also the societal thing of women (in large) being more accepting of peoples differences
feck off, stop being a prick.
Oh 100%, and Thomas would absolutely be an example of a very positive representation in male sports for gay players. Not that it should make a difference, but I do agreeI think that the bolded is part of the reason why the type of player to come out could be significant. For example, Gareth Thomas was the first openly gay rugby player and he was an absolutely fearless warrior of a player (he captained Wales and is one of their most capped players). It meant that nobody could use the "effeminate" stereotype which probably helped the perception of gay players within the game. For example, if Vidic was gay it would probably have helped the perception of gay people whereas if a young Ronaldo had come out as gay, not so much as he has perceived as a bit of a diving stepover aficionado.
It’s a fecking joke pal settle down.It’s a massive sociological thing where sports are seen as masculine, and for generations gay men were characterised as “not real men” and not capable of being “manly” which kinda bleeds into the being involved in sport = not feminine so much more likely to have a chunk of gay participants. There’s also the societal thing of women (in large) being more accepting of peoples differences
feck off, stop being a prick.
For future reference, jokes are supposed to be funny, pal.It’s a fecking joke pal settle down.
For future reference, hit the ignore button and feck off.For future reference, jokes are supposed to be funny, pal.
Women's football is definitely leading the way in this area, and has been for years, if not decades.Because the assholes making it impossible for gay players to come out, don’t give a shit about womens football anyway. That’s not even a sport in their mind. So why even bother with „protecting“ it from the gays?
Why is it seemingly "easier" for women footballers to come out as gay, and even date their teammates, then it is for males to do likewise??
For example, hypothetically speaking here, what would be so wrong if Shaw and Sancho were to date each other??
We have had a gay manager in charger of our women's team in Casey, and gay players such as Amy Turner, yet nothing seemingly on the same level with regards to the men's team, it is very odd to have such a huge contrast at the same club.
Woman's football has a different audience and one that is more tolerant in some respects.Why is it seemingly "easier" for women footballers to come out as gay, and even date their teammates, then it is for males to do likewise??
For example, hypothetically speaking here, what would be so wrong if Shaw and Sancho were to date each other??
We have had a gay manager in charger of our women's team in Casey, and gay players such as Amy Turner, yet nothing seemingly on the same level with regards to the men's team, it is very odd to have such a huge contrast at the same club.
My god, there is an earnestness overload going on here.For future reference, jokes are supposed to be funny, pal.
Struggling to figure out what you’re angry about hereThe fact this is even a thread is a joke in itself, like a person’s sexuality affects the game. Get a grip.
Why don’t we have a “Black Footballers” thread? This is why society is ridiculous.
Christ. I don’t even know where to start. That’s such a strange equivalence to make considering the amount of discussion we have about race in football.The fact this is even a thread is a joke in itself, like a person’s sexuality affects the game. Get a grip.
Why don’t we have a “Black Footballers” thread? This is why society is ridiculous.
He was being sarcastic that since men like women on women action, they act like it is okay. It was more of an criticism of some men's views on homosexuality rather than him being a pervert.For future reference, jokes are supposed to be funny, pal.
What is the different audience that you think women's football has (no malice at all intended, just genuinely curious to try to gauge where you are coming from here with this comment)??Woman's football has a different audience and one that is more tolerant in some respects.
Football to some extent still has problems with race even if English football is not as racist as it was 30 years ago.
It's hard to gauge how homophobic English football is: you have the match going fans at stadiums. How much do they are about sexuality now?
Then there's the wider British public of football fans: is this something that would be big issue for a significant proportion? There's still a lot of casual bigotry in British society.
Finally there's the worldwide fanbase who mainly engage in the sport through online platforms. This might be the biggest source of bigotry either domestically or abroad due to the anonymous nature of platforms like Twitter.
A lot of people are stuck in the dark ages, more than you would like to think.The era of people thinking that it is somehow wrong or not right is thankfully well and truly over, only neanderthals stuck in the dark ages would have any issues with it.
Maybe there can be parental disclaimers before matches who have out LGBTQ players.
hope you're jokingMaybe there can be parental disclaimers before matches who have out LGBTQ players.
That’s what some Republicans have thought up in committee over here, putting parental warning disclaimers before any shows that depict LGBTQ.
Massive sarcasm, but that’s what some republicans want to institute.hope you're joking
There should be disclaimers for United matches. "warning: there may be some scenes United fans find distressing"
Hopefully ten Hag gets us performing so sexually they have to slap a parental advisory sticker on our kitsMassive sarcasm, but that’s what some republicans want to institute.
You're being very naive no offence.I may be very naive but I don’t think there’ll be major abuse. Or at least any more than is shouted at football matches already. The groundswell of public opinion will be supportive and he will have loads of opportunities to move the public discourse along, in much the same way as Rashford has. Plus, though I’m sure it won’t factor into his thinking, there will be huge opportunities to monetise this if he’s inclined.
100%I think a lot of people overestimate how many gay players there are.
The fact this is even a thread is a joke in itself, like a person’s sexuality affects the game. Get a grip.
Why don’t we have a “Black Footballers” thread? This is why society is ridiculous.
Sociological reasoning mainly I presume of sports being masculine, and in the case of certain sports like football massively so, from professional all the way down to grass roots. A lot of youth or small-time local female teams have lesbian players. The woman's game has been built upwards with that foundation of inclusion and there hasn't had to be any changes.Why is it seemingly "easier" for women footballers to come out as gay, and even date their teammates, then it is for males to do likewise??
For example, hypothetically speaking here, what would be so wrong if Shaw and Sancho were to date each other??
We have had a gay manager in charger of our women's team in Casey, and gay players such as Amy Turner, yet nothing seemingly on the same level with regards to the men's team, it is very odd to have such a huge contrast at the same club.
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Well, I'd say it'd come as a bit of a shock to Alicia Aylies and Katie Goodland, but not sure why anyone else should give a shit.Imagine say if Mbappe and Kane were to just kiss each other, and show their support to each other, as these two do, would their be anything odd or out of place about that??
It's not surprising at all, it's classic rethorics used by the right wing, "there's no problem, you're creating the problem by talking about it. Why black lives matter, we don't have white lives matter" blabla, insert standard whataboutism, blabla.Christ. I don’t even know where to start. That’s such a strange equivalence to make considering the amount of discussion we have about race in football.
And guess why there’s far more BAME players now, because it was openly discussed in society and racism is no longer just swept under the carpet for the most part. Homophobia definitely is at football.
So you can think society is ridiculous for needing to discuss these things, but it’s more ridiculous to pretend everything is okay and it’s perfectly normal for there to be no openly gay professional footballers in the professional leagues.
Far more black players. Racism is still alive and well for other racial minorities in football, particularly British South Asian.Christ. I don’t even know where to start. That’s such a strange equivalence to make considering the amount of discussion we have about race in football.
And guess why there’s far more BAME players now, because it was openly discussed in society and racism is no longer just swept under the carpet for the most part. Homophobia definitely is at football.
So you can think society is ridiculous for needing to discuss these things, but it’s more ridiculous to pretend everything is okay and it’s perfectly normal for there to be no openly gay professional footballers in the professional leagues.
It was just a hypothetical example of two high profile players playing in two different leagues, that was all.Well, I'd say it'd come as a bit of a shock to Alicia Aylies and Katie Goodland, but not sure why anyone else should give a shit.
Flagged as an inappropriate joke but I actually think the perception is true enough as a psychological thing.Because Lesbians are hot!
I have seen plenty of other men say that for example Becks is a very attractive man, or similar with Maldini, or Totti, so not sure that point is true, (perhaps you haven't seen anyone say such things, if so, fair enough).Flagged as an inappropriate joke but I actually think the perception is true enough as a psychological thing.
I'd posit that women are more socially accepted for liking women than men liking men. It's also much easier for a straight woman to say they find another woman attractive than a straight man saying that about another man.
Because of historical perceptions and portrayals by straight men in power - 'lesbians = hot, gay men = ew'
I have no factual basis for this thought though.