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Gerrard Confirms He's Slipping Off
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So now he's said he would have stayed if he was offered the contract during the summer?
So it isn't really about playing time then is it? I knew there was more to this than what was being said.
So it isn't really about playing time then is it? I knew there was more to this than what was being said.
Just as I thought. Big man didn't want to be bit part with a one year contract. Good on him on getting the MLS ticket though. Deserves to live the American dream after having to be holed up in Liverpool all his life
But he was happy to be that if the contract was offered in the summer? Doesn't make any sense.
That's the thing, I think he wasn't offered the kind of contract he was after.
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He starting, maybe that's the wrong word, to sound like a twat.
The caravan park didnt even have an arcade like the British ones do.one340 said:
"Stevie you're going to get fewer games."
"Ok."
"It'll mean your pay will have to drop to reflect that."
"Now hang on a fecking minute!"
"Ok."
"It'll mean your pay will have to drop to reflect that."
"Now hang on a fecking minute!"
It was good of $tevie MBe to announce his departure 5 months in advance. Having announced it this way, now all us neutrals can be treated to five months of fawning media queries about just what Liverpool will do without him every time he scores a goal or manages to play a pass that doesn't sail over the touchline. We've already had some ludicrous media contortions about how he's footballs ultimate 'one-club man' despite the fact that he's ... erm, leaving to play for another club, unlike inferior one-club men like say, Franco Baresi, Ryan Giggs or Paolo Maldini. He's leaving because his manager told him he needs to have the number of games he plays managed, an idea that Mbe himself is 'totally fine' with even though he's now leaving, the conversation reluctantly revealed to the press by $tevie but obviously not to throw Brendan Rodgers under the bus as the reason for his departure in the middle of a difficult season. This whole media fuss isn't about $tevie Mbe, honestly, it's about the fans deserving to know the truth - Jason Tew
Fair dos to him then. I wouldn't stick around for a 1 year contract after what he's done for them. It reminds me of Pirlo leaving Milan for Juve because of the same thing, a deal Milan will still be kicking themselves for.
Why not? It was Ok for Giggs, he signed 1 year contracts at a time. That's Gerrard's problem, his ego.
Ha, what a load of bull from Stevie.
Because it was good enough for Giggs it has to be good enough for him?
No doubt $tevieG and the club have fallen out somewhat. Henderson came out saying how important Gerrard is behind the scenes so surely he's the kind of guy that needs keeping on the coaching/management side rather than allowing him to piss off to obscurity in the US.
I'm guessing here, but I get the feeling it wasn't about playing time, and it was more about some insulting monetary offer in the contract. A large pay-cut to stay with reduced game time. And here I can kind of see his side, stevie me is stevie me, but if he plays 20 games a year or 50 next season, he will no doubt be their number one shirt seller, face of the business and the one demanded by all major sponsors. In those circumstances, his value should be very similar whether he is on the pitch or on the bench.
I think this is a false economy from the bean counters that will really backfire. He should be like Giggs, the link between the old and new. I have no idea if Giggs is any good at management, but Van Gaal new the value of having a link to the clubs history their to help him along.
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Why does debate around Gerrard have to be framed around some notion of ego?
Your logic here is rather stretched. Giggs accepted a period of managed decline in his late 30s. That was perfectly fine and suited him personally. Gerrard is 34 and believes he can still play most games - not what Liverpool offered. He gets a very good contract abroad and will play ever game. Decision made.
I don't believe a heightened sense of ego has determined his decision anymore than it would do for any player.
I still think that he will end up staying at Liverpool next season, one way or the other. We already know he is weak-willed after he changed his mind on going to Chelsea - likes his comfort zone too much,
Off to the Galaxy, la
Like Fat Frank was off to New York? We'll see
Its a shame he's going to be leaving under a cloud, somewhat tarnishing his legacy with the club
Think we're being a bit biased here. It looks like Gerrard is fully aware that he can't play nonstop every game but...he wants to play anyway. That may not make a lot of sense but he's aware of the contradiction at least. Sure, it's a kind of perverse denial (though not unknown in human nature); however, it's not necessarily a sign of oversized ego.
It seems they've already prepared for his arrival.
http://digg.com/video/la-galaxy-made-a-slip-n-slide-out-of-booze-to-celebrate-their-mls-cup-win
http://digg.com/video/la-galaxy-made-a-slip-n-slide-out-of-booze-to-celebrate-their-mls-cup-win
Can't help but feel he's wasting himself by going to the MLS (sorry MLS fans) ... it was only less then a year ago that he was putting in high quality performances for Liverpool week in week out...
It is about playing time. In the summer the conversation about managing his games massively hadn't been had yet.
He would have signed a one year contract in the summer. His last contract was a two year one. Go on, tell me how that's egotistical.
He's not tarnished his legacy in the slightest.
He knows he can't do it at the highest level so he's dropping down to a level where he can.
The question is:
Would you rather be rested every couple of games or so, or drop down to significantly lower quality football? It's not necessarily an ego thing, he knows he doesn't have the legs for the premier league any more and has accepted a step down to a lower league, he can't handle not being the main man at Liverpool but at least he realises this and has made a decision.
Following this line of argument it could be argued he's not acting on ego. Quite the opposite as he's taking a step down.
Maybe but they will fawn over Slippy G over here, wherever he goes the dippers will come out to pay homage and hope that he can slip for them just one more time.
I'll be the first to grant you that the MLS is not anywhere near the EPL but it is not as bad as some of you think it is. This is all about being a big fish in a small pond, kind of like the King and his trawlers.
That's a ridiculous generalization. I would say it all depends on where you were and who you ran with. The US is the land of opportunity. Your beer is better but we are catching up.
Difficult to say, could just as easily be about money. I can't imagine Liverpool offering the same terms he's currently on, whilst he's playing sporadically and from the bench. I can imagine the halving of his six figure weekly salary wouldn't go down too well either. In his situation I think quite a lot of people would feel that they'd earned the right to continue their great wage until retirement.
I'm sure the conversation with Brendan whereby he'll have been told his wage would be halved to reflect his play time being managed; it wouldn't be the latter that he'd be most annoyed about. Although both sides will merely speculate I'd say the fact that he isn't going to another Champions League team in Germany, Italy or Spain is quite telling (making the decision when it is mathematically impossible for Liverpool to quality, to avoid looking like a hypocrite).
Seems to me he has given up on winning the Prem and just wants to enjoy his final years. His head had definitely gone this year.
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Well there lies the problem. Gerrard believes he can still play most games, however as his performances this season have shown he is not as capable as he was and managing his game time could of prolonged his career.
Please don't wheel out the 'he knows he cant do it at the top level so is dropping down a level' line, because as he has stated today, he wanted to stay.
His ego is telling him he can play every game and no doubt the terms of the contract would of been significantly less due to the fact his appearances would have been more restricted, which he couldn't accept.
#StevieLa G
Not only la' but as well a G.
It's almost as if they're taking the piss now
Not only la' but as well a G.
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It's almost as if they're taking the piss now
There you go again. You're framing this around 'ego' as if Gerrard's behaviour is any different to that of most people, let alone players. Of course he has an ego, just like everybody. But I don't think this story hangs on his ego any more than it would somebody else.
It's just the usual pop-psychology Gerrard bashing.
Just so none of you forget....
Utter prick!
Utter prick!
A fitting tribute to the great man. I shed a tear watching it, in fairness.
He couldn't handle being just another player at the club, he couldn't handle having to rotate with mere squad players - he wants to go somewhere he can be the leading star yet again. He's an egotistical twat.
Gerrard obviously feels like he's been forced out of Liverpool with all the latest stuff he''s been saying.
Expect him to throw some more manure when he leaves and when Rodgers does.
Expect him to throw some more manure when he leaves and when Rodgers does.