Yeah there’s definitely a pre-determined sort of feel to games.
Get rid of VAR NOW! We want our game back! (...or not, some are happy)
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Think not giving a handball was the wrong decision, but that's an opinion you can only hold if you also want VAR to be 'hands on', which of course the majority of angry grandpas on here do not.
It has to be a hand in an unnatural position. I'd have to see it again, but not sure it was.
I've said in the other thread it's high time referees were mic'd up so we could hear their decision making as in other sports. At the very least conversations with the VAR should be broadcast as in cricket and rugby so we can understand what's going on.
I don't know if it would change things but I think it hit Silva's arm first. Maybe that has some bearing on it - all I can think of anyway.
The PL say TAA didn't have his hand in an unnatural position...
Wasn't there a different rule for handball earlier in the season?
You’ve really summed up my thoughts. I’ve stopped watching games outside of ours. I love(d) the sport but have grown disillusioned with it especially English league which I’ve always been a fan of. The standard and implementation of refs and VAR is beyond terrible. I check these threads to see the gossip on the calls and it seems every week there’s some terrible decisions.
As expected, it's the only possible excuse despite how bullshit it is. They make up the rules as they go to support whatever decision was made.
They just showed an image. People with 8k TVs, offside or not? I mean, it's not, but what do you see?
Sky just showed a replay of the second goal, and the line they used was crooked..
The issue is consistency. There is none
I'd wager the mean age for the against camp is significantly higher. Would love to see the stats.
Where’s the red line for Salah?
That’s not the lines var use it? It’s a made up sky one
The TAA moment is nothing. Silva's arm touched the ball before it hit TAA.
Theres a lot of clutching going on in here. It looks close but that's it. As said earlier, theres been nothing to actually show he was off.
Was a penalty though.
Was a penalty though.
Looks like it, shouldn't it line up with the pitch mowing? What are we missing?The line is askew.
And? Either way the game should stop.
The official word from the PL is the pen wasn't given as TAA had his arm in a natural position. Really? It's rubbish. Zero consistency.
Whether it did or it didn't, that isn't the reason given for the lack of a penalty call.
Dutch commentators saying it was an 'attacking' handball by Silva.
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If VAR is only there to rule whether the ref has made a clear and obvious error, when do they start checking when VAR has made a clear and obvious error?
What's that then?
Two handballs don't equal no handballs. That doesn't even make an ounce of sense.
pen is 50 50 for me
I think lfc get it down the other end
not a var issue particularly imo
other than it cheesing us off
I think lfc get it down the other end
not a var issue particularly imo
other than it cheesing us off
Doesn't matter what commentators are saying. The Silva handball was not considered when ruling on the TAA handball.
One of the most blatant handballs with serious repercussions on a title race there can ever be. It's not VAR it is the officials... what a disgrace!
If the ball doesn’t strike TAA hand then it goes straight to Sterling who would probably score. Based on that alone, it has to be a penalty.
That is scoring from a handball rule which isn't the issue and is irrelevant to calling back a penalty.
Is it just me or are we debating decisions even more now? VAR was supposed to prove decisions beyond reasonable doubt and it’s just not. It’s horrible.
It's ridiculous isn't it
The issue is it's not being used with any consistency.
First handball was by Bernardo
Clearly onside as they've just shown on Sky.
Completely agree, Pundits like Souness being allowed to be blatantly bias does my head in. If that was against Liverpool he would be going mental. Not saying some given some not.
Had it done so City’s goal would have been disallowed due to it getting there off of Bernardo’s hand