I am honestly appalled at how people react to my posts
I'm sorry, but I think playing the victim card is not going to work for you,
@thundercats. Let's starts here:
none of my comments were directly aimed at Giggs’ wife
If they weren't, then what's this about:
It is not unlikely a girl falls for men with a big wallet though. It is all historically correct. Women didn't work and had to marry rich men to have a luxurious life during marriage and after the husbands death, this was especially important due to wars killing off many husband throughout the centuries. This is obviously not the reason anymore to marry rich men but it is still part of female DNA. If a girl falls for a bum I'm pretty sure her parents will do everything they can to see it fail.
Obviously this was said in relation to Giggs's ex. Surely you weren't just randomly rambling off-topic about women in in general in a thread about this very specific woman...?
Also, while we're on this quote: if the reference to 'female DNA' isn't to be taken literally, then you're still implying that women continue to be culturally programmed to marry richer men even if it's no longer useful to them (at least in the UK). That's still pretty demeaning as it implies women have little will of their own, or maybe even intelligence.
You also said this:
I just gave some historically accurate info that might or might not have a say in what happened in their relationship.
You're yourself implying here that what you're saying was intended in the context of Giggs's ex. But more importantly: what you were saying about women was not very 'historically accurate', but pretty limited in scope. In particular:
I said women married rich men or men with big prospects because women generally didn’t work and thus have no income. it is not the women’s fault, it was back then society’s fault for not granting women the same qualities and freedom as men in life. They had no choice but to look at men who were doing well financially speaking so they had a good future. That is why families had their daughters in arranged marriages. Women who were not in a position to marry such men usually stayed on the farm or married another farmer, some went into prostitution etc etc.
What you're talking about is the rich elite, where servants would take care of the work and women would focus on cultural activities or whatever was their role in those societies. But that's a tiny minority of any population. The vast majority of women did work: usually stuff like taking care of the household and children, cooking, mill grain, brew beer, and all kinds of other tasks around the house. And yes, that would have counted as work - especially since, until not too long ago, economies were not very monetary, so the fact that women would not have been paid for this work would not have stood out. (It's one of the great failings of the money-focused GDP, btw: it underestimates women's contributions to economies.)
Beyond that, these women's entire social milieu would have been very similar in their (low) economic status, so trying to marry upwards would have been pretty futile; you just marry a nice guy from your area that your parents approve of, or some such mechanism.
So as far as I can tell, your 'historically accurate information' has very little practical historical application and hence explains next to nothing about women's behaviour now. Other arguments could be brought in that would address the general question better (why women appear to try to date upwards more than men), but that's still a gross simplification that does not do justice to the choices of women in the UK today. And most importantly, it ultimately says nothing about this particular woman, and certainly does not justify or has anything to do with the behaviour Giggs has been accused of. So of course people are jumping on you. This isn't some general women's history thread.
Finally also:
We all know violent men in our families and friends and what do we do about it ? Nothing because it is none of our business.
Seriously? You'd look away and do nothing if you knew a guy was hitting his partner or kids, cause it's none of your business?
