I happen to agree with that statement, maybe not the parent reaction part though that is likely to be the case at least some of the time.What the?
like I have no words.
Giggs trial
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But he does get his cock out for peanuts
It's a form of reverse recency bias where you view a action performed in the past as lesser than a recent one. One good example is George Best and Ryan Giggs. I'm far removed from George Best's days and actions, whereas im very involved and familiar with Giggs' debauchery.
The name George Best conjures all kinds of feelings of past pride of the club, whereas Giggs' name is as tarnished as it could be, and yet history would indicate that George Best was far worse.
That's not wholly accurate. His name now conjures up very mixed feelings. I don't know if he was far worse and his treatment of Angie and Alex does show a man with huge problems but Giggs can't use the reason of alcohol abuse to at least understand his actions. His appear to be measured and calculated
You agree with the bit about it being part of female DNA?
Not sure what is agreeable in that post, for the simple fact it was posted in relation to the context of what is happening with Giggs.
Sure if this was a thread on the history of females and how culture has changed over the years in relation to marriage and the relationship between husband and wife, then maybe there is some debate to be had, but nothing in that post is agreeable in relation to the discuss at hand.
I think that back in the 60s and at least part of the 70s smacking women around was tolerated socially, at least much more than it is now. Just think of how common it was in older films, etc. As a result there was less contemporary criticism of Best and his reputation is less tarnished because of that..
Sean Connery beat his first wife and coincidentally James Bond has many a time slapped a woman
Yes, this is exactly the sort of thing I was thinking of.
People telling you they love you and you are great since 17.
These people are not and never will be like us. Giggs is a maniac. Look at his eyes. If you think celebrities are role models you are dumb.
Charles Barkley was right. Sports celebs aren't role models and never will be notwithstanding a few exceptions.
You also have a media that is hellbent on getting dirt on one if their own and exploiting the fallout. Sickening.
Guilty or not guilty who cares about Ryan giggs the person. We all know he is one of the best united players of all time and one of the best British players too.
If you need a celebrity to show you righteousness you are beyond saving.
These people are not and never will be like us. Giggs is a maniac. Look at his eyes. If you think celebrities are role models you are dumb.
Charles Barkley was right. Sports celebs aren't role models and never will be notwithstanding a few exceptions.
You also have a media that is hellbent on getting dirt on one if their own and exploiting the fallout. Sickening.
Guilty or not guilty who cares about Ryan giggs the person. We all know he is one of the best united players of all time and one of the best British players too.
If you need a celebrity to show you righteousness you are beyond saving.
Come on this is just silly. Maybe the prosecution should use that line- 'just look at his eyes, he's clearly a maniac!'
I really don’t think that’s true. Though there’s no doubt that women are a little bit more empowered to do something about it than they were then.
Plus as far as I’m aware Best only turned into a really violent monster long after then.
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Giggs is beautiful - with sly eyes like demon.
Perhaps not DNA but strong cultural influences over the centuries are not easily dismissed, but obviously not actually DNA itself.
Yeah I didn't read most of the thread and was just treating it as a standalone comment rather than in the context of the thread.
I'll be honest, he was one of my favorite players but him being a fantastic footballer for the club I support doesn't change he's scum. I have no admiration for him left at all, don't even like that he was once a United player.
Sadism could also means lack of empathy, and just because he doesn't slash people up doesn't mean a person does not have sadism trait inside of them. Laws and norms restraint people and upbringing does their job, doesn't mean they don't have it in them.Yeah, poor girl with no moral agency in all this. How dare Giggs pimp her out to the entire squad.
It's very interesting how (regarding his adultery) a lot of people are unable to look at this without them imagining themselves being in Rohdri's shoes. Only explanation for the hyperbole regarding his character (not speaking to the current case where he's not been convicted)
BDSM is one of the major fetishes in the world, some people love it. You'd be amazed that some people enjoy torturing animals and paid good money to see it. Most people managed to contain their urge into fantasy, but the underlying urge is sinister in its nature.
Off topic, but I'll take this chance to ask: What is actually the best way to go about to become a full member these days? I would like to, having been on here for some years now. I generally write sensible enough posts, I do not sh*t on our players, or throw my toys out of the pram when we don't get the shiniest new toy (re: Grealish over Sancho). (And, you know, considering this thread, I do not make posts full or misogynism, essentalism and tired stereotypes either). But is the deal that one has to post in the actual newbie forums? I see posts every now and then that make me scratch my head as to how they got there.If nothing else this thread is a perfect example of why the old newbie system was best
Just write with more thoughts insteaf of some quippy remarks. Not have to but it helps.
Newbie system isnt made to weed out non supporters. It's just there to make you know the basic rules of decency and show the mods that you can communicate your thoughts well.
If you follow the above, just be patience your time will come. Newbie can post 5 times in mains daily now so it wasnt that bad.
We have our own child pool to play back then.
Mostly you'll need to learn not to attack the poster, not using phone talk, not posting hoax, not posting illegal material. Just basic stuff really.
You can be as vocal as you want as long as you can defend your opinion. If you think de gea is shit for example you can elaborate on it. Just not in a one liner crude "he's useless"
Once you come to the main, welcome to the jungle.
You might comes across old poster who can be pretty harsh with words, but at least they'll write it in some funny ways, or used to at least. You can have a dig at poster, just dont be a cnut about it. It's a banter forum after all.
Just be yourself. Maintain decency while doing so
Thanks mate. I'm not really finding success through that though. My posts could be longer and more thoughtful I guess, but I certainly do not do the things you mention. Could be some time in the newbie section is what it takes too ;-)
Take your time. The main these days arent what it used to be. It's enough you can interact with us anyway. Just enjoy the forum and dont take it as a stripe you need to earn.
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Surprised by that.
Does he get the Wales job back now or has that ship sailed?
I knew Sir Ryan would pull through this. The whole thing has been a farce.
Well at least his only most famous vice is shagging his brothers wife for 8 years and nothing more.
This thread will be something…
Impeccable timing.
Will be interesting to see how the PL move forward with this. They've basically pretended he doesn't exist. Not in the Hall of Fame for example, but it would be very weird to add him as the 16th/17th person.
He stepped down permenantly at some stage well before the WC
Does this mean I can keep my «Giggs Fitness» yoga DVD?
Always knew he was as innocent as John Terry was.
What an awful week for victims of sexual abuse and domestic violence.
Always feels unresolved when the case just gets dropped. Doesn't really prove anything one way or another.
Yet a good week to confirm that the system wins over mob rule, thank goodness for that.
I will remember Ryan Giggs flying down the wing first and foremost.
But think the ship has sailed regarding his involvement with football and media.
But think the ship has sailed regarding his involvement with football and media.
Fantastic news!
The sooner these trials are played out as far from the public eye as possible, the better for all involved.
The only time we as the public should know anything is when a guilty verdict is handed down.
The only time we as the public should know anything is when a guilty verdict is handed down.
The Jury failed to convict the first time and the Crown has withdrawn the case. How is it unresolved?
Can we please not use these cases for snide cheap shots? If you want to discuss how the judicial system processes and deals with domestic abuse and sexual assualt, then do so, you can even defend the system you seem to blindly love, but don't use it for cheap talking points.
I have the United 1998 home shirt, which Giggs signed for me when I met him at a Q&A a few years ago. Framed and on the wall (well, floor leaned against the wall at the moment) - do i put that up again now?
I don't think so. I think he'll be well advised to stay away for a bit, let another controversy with someone else come out and then dip his toe back in.