For one he is the best CB on our booksHe wanted to leave because he wasn’t going to play. We don’t know what influence he has with certain players in the squad. What’s to be gained by holding someone hostage? And how exactly would Chris fecking Smalling make the slightest bit of difference to this shit show?
I think Pogba should have been sold too and we absolutely should have brought in replacements beforehand. The board are a fecking disgrace for allowing this to happen.For one he is the best CB on our books
Secondly why are you ignoring the blatant contradiction with Pogba
Thirdly I have no issue with them being sold. I have issue with Woodward not replacement but also Ole sanctioning sales without knowing a replacement was linedup/sealed.
He was obviously niave and also thought players like Lingard Mata Pereira Jones could cover which shows poor judgement
There's nothing fans can do.So what do you propose to do?
But Ole wanted to keep Pogba.I think Pogba should have been sold too and we absolutely should have brought in replacements beforehand. The board are a fecking disgrace for allowing this to happen.
Yes they did under LVGSo you think fans will continue going to games watching this shitfest? Numbers will fall eventually and I think today is the start of something. We can't just wait around and hope That something will be done.
He backed Martial and you could argue Rashfords form was due to an increase in responsibility and it allowed us to give opportunity to Greenwood.But Ole wanted to keep Pogba.
Look no matter what you say about Lukaku. Ole came in after Jose and dropped him immediately and then started playing him on the wing. What did he think was going to happen in the summer. So if thats the case if he knew he was going to sideline Lukaku like that, he should have ensured that the replacement was coming. Its poor management
Yep. An absolute shitstain. And a chinless one to boot.I hate Woodward more then I hate any one person or thing on this planet
I hate him more then the idea of Liverpool winning the league
Twat
I don't believe that for a second... It isn't about hitting them in their pocket. It is all about perception and coverage. If half the stadium stood up on 20 minutes, winning or losing, and walked out the stadium, do you not think that the media would be all over it. It would be impossible to swerve the questioning.There's nothing fans can do.
Except for support the team, suck it up, and hope there's a seismic change in the board, or that we stumble on a manager who can actually pick a player at a decent price, and fuse an effective team together.
Look he left us short. Management is about keeping everyone happy and onside until u no longer need them. He didnt need to sideline Lukaku the way he did without knowing someone was coming in. Didnt need to be a striker but could be a winger. You mentioned Greenwood who plays mainly RW for usHe backed Martial and you could argue Rashfords form was due to an increase in responsibility and it allowed us to give opportunity to Greenwood.
This need to get personal with Woodward, Judge and anyone connected with United, such as Sponsors.
Pointless targeting the Glazers personally as they live in the US and don’t care.
Woodward can be got at. His address needs circulating, his email, phone anything needs putting out there and the wanker needs a shake up.
It doesn’t have to be physical but banners outside his home, phone calls, etc can all done in a targeted approach.
He thinks he’s out of reach and will sack Ole to save himself. He will use PR to stem some anger - DoF proposals in the news tomorrow perhaps?
Mates are struggling to give them away, they will renew though.So you think fans will continue going to games watching this shitfest? Numbers will fall eventually and I think today is the start of something. We can't just wait around and hope That something will be done.
Doesn’t he actually live and work in London.This need to get personal with Woodward, Judge and anyone connected with United, such as Sponsors.
Pointless targeting the Glazers personally as they live in the US and don’t care.
Woodward can be got at. His address needs circulating, his email, phone anything needs putting out there and the wanker needs a shake up.
It doesn’t have to be physical but banners outside his home, phone calls, etc can all done in a targeted approach.
He thinks he’s out of reach and will sack Ole to save himself. He will use PR to stem some anger - DoF proposals in the news tomorrow perhaps?
What questioning? When did Woodward or the Glazers ever put themselves forward to answering questions? I don't even know what their voices sound like. Media drama will have to be fronted by the manager, as always. The board will not care one tiny jot about what the media are saying so long as the club still makes them money. Once it drys up, they will cash in, scoot away with their massive sacks of money and never give Utd another thought.I don't believe that for a second... It isn't about hitting them in their pocket. It is all about perception and coverage. If half the stadium stood up on 20 minutes, winning or losing, and walked out the stadium, do you not think that the media would be all over it. It would be impossible to swerve the questioning.
Fans are the ONLY thing that can force change in this situation.
I don’t advocate any violence but I want things to be toxic to the point that he feels he can’t go near the games anymore. If that’s constant hurling of abuse for 90 mins every match, then so be it.This shouldnt happen, but if this continues up, I dont think it will be far off from happening. I think we will start seeing him at less and less matches because the abuse he is going to cop is going to be astronomical.
Excatly mate, losing money is the only thing these parasites are worried about so do something about it!Exactly this.... Time for people to stop buying tickets or turning up. That stadium needs to having 40k empty seats... Season ticket holders... stop turning up for f**** sake. the seasons gone anyway.... In the age of social media I can't believe it is that difficult to organise boycott... Or even a mass walkout 10 mins into a game. Get these parasites out of the club.
If it is a clearly organised boycott against the owners, what question do you think the manager is going to get asked?What questioning? When did Woodward or the Glazers ever put themselves forward to answering questions? I don't even know what their voices sound like. Media drama will have to be fronted by the manager, as always. The board will not care one tiny jot about what the media are saying so long as the club still makes them money. Once it drys up, they will cash in, scoot away with their massive sacks of money and never give Utd another thought.
He’s not going to do that though is he. It’s all about money for everyone. United’s decline is almost symbolic of the state of the world.Woodward will just sack Ole and appoint another manager in an attempt to stave off criticism of himself.
If I was Ole, I'd refused any NDAs and go off on one about how the club is run after I get sacked.
There would be zero pressure on the ownership. It's their club. They don't have to answer to anyone. If sponsors get sad, then they will shrug and say fair enough, and get new sponsors. The Man Utd brand is never ever going to stop making them money either way.If it is a clearly organised boycott against the owners, what question do you think the manager is going to get asked?
"What have the owners said to you?", "What is Ed Woodwards position on the walk out?", "Will they be making a statement to the fans?". Some things can not be avoided. I think people completely down play the power that they have to effect change. Big, visual statements can have a huge impacts."
Answer me this hypothetical.... If 20k+ fans walked out of the stadium singing "love united, hate the glazers" 20 mins into a game for 3 home games in a row, there wouldn't be an enormous amount of pressure put on the ownership?
Any awkward questions to the manager will just cause him grief, and he will put up with it because that is part of his job. If he doesn't put up with it, then he will be replaced. Still won't have any effect on the board.If it is a clearly organised boycott against the owners, what question do you think the manager is going to get asked?
"What have the owners said to you?", "What is Ed Woodwards position on the walk out?", "Will they be making a statement to the fans?". Some things can not be avoided. I think people completely down play the power that they have to effect change. Big, visual statements can have a huge impacts."
It’s not about the revenue lost as most would have already paid to attend the game via their season tickets. It’s about sending a message which is very damaging for reputation and sponsorship.Internet fan tells actual fans to stop going to games.
Great one.
Have you seen the reducing percent of revenue match gate is compared to the rest? It's not even a game changer.
Fans leaving in the 85th minute is fcukin normal.It’s not about the revenue lost as most would have already paid to attend the game via their season tickets. It’s about sending a message which is very damaging for reputation and sponsorship.
BT already mentioned fans leaving at the 85th. Having a half empty stadium changes things. You only have to look at Liverpool and Arsenal in recent years. Liverpool got new owners and Arsenal got Wenger out.
And this comes from a fan whose supporters help oust their former owners. Some of our fans could learn a thing or two from them.As soon as something starts to build you get a decent result or a few and it’s like a reset. Rinse repeat.
You guys, Arsenal, Newcastle and West Ham. It’s a never ending cycle. Flashes of discontent will never achieve anything.
This is a very good point, and why I think the OleIN vs OleOUT is a red herring. Despite spending over £1.5billion on transfer fees and wages for new players post SAF, no manager has managed to challenge for the league title. OGS might not be the right candidate but changing him right now achieves nothing. Any new manager will face exactly the same issues and fail for exactly the same reasons. And it frustrates me that so many can't see this, and so a unified protest cant be voiced.the day the matchgoing fans start singing for a change in manager instead of the people upstairs esp. with someone with **** status like Ole, the club is well and truly done and Woodward and Glazers have complete control of the fans as well. Changing managers before changing the footballing structure of the club will, if it hasn't already, be used to appease the fans everytime something goes wrong. Hopefully, supporters don't lap it up this time but seeing what is happening in caf I don't see any hope.
Don't think that's simply out of their love of football. Our owners are greedy cnuts draining the blood from United but City's owners have actual blood on their hands and the investment into the club is only to support that.I was reading an article about Man City's ffp breaches earlier.
Can you imagine having owners that desperately try and break rules to put as much of their own money as they can into the club?
What did they do? Can we not use those and others for inspiration?I have such an admiration for how Liverpool fans unified to save their club from the poisonous ownership of Hicks/Gillette
