i think we have some paid shills hereAnd to think we have actual glazer bootlickers here
#GlazersOut
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nicely played sirHow do you think they paid off those loans?
I certainly have concerns about the Glazers, Woodward, and the club, and there’s multiple levels of concerns that are not just solved by a simple monolithic solution like: new owners, appoint a DOF, fire Ed.And to think we have actual glazer bootlickers here
However, it’s also highly irresponsible to at least consider that...
It may be possible, although certainly not optimal, that even under the constraints of Glazer ownership the club can return to the success fans are accustomed too.
But more fervently, my opinion is that those who think, “It can’t get any worse than this” are patently wrong. Venky’s. We are still yet to see exactly what happens when ownership of a major club simply loses interest or walks away. We can cite Rangers, etc., but with the vast amounts of money that PSG, Real Madrid, etc are laying out, it’s very difficult to see how it’s sustainable at times. It will probably take a major club going into receivership and liquidation for the world to wake up and take notice. Arsenal fans and United hate their owners, but there is at least a measured level of financial responsibility involved. With a new owner, that level of responsibility could erode into disaster.
I share the same feeling. We as fans must look at the interest of the club, not some overseas American billionaire businessmen, who want to run us as a corporation and expect each financial quarter's profits to exceed the previous.
If we want to take it to the business terminology, we are a major part of all stakeholders and without us the whole thing crumbles. We have to demand as a united fanbase that either major organisational changes are made, or the Glazers look to sell their majority hold to people who want to develop the club and not look for short-term returns and profits.
I think you're absolutely right.
And even amongst the ones who aren't shills there are those that immediately jump on anyone that even dares to suggest anything negative about the owners - it's like some are more committed to sticking up for the owners than they are the club. It's fecked up.
if that's all accurate its a disgrace. I don't think people fully appreciate what they are getting away with
Nobody in their right minds likes having the Glazers here, but as others have pointed out, it could be a lot worse.
Anyone praying for new owners should consider the fact that if we were to be bought by another, it certainly won’t be to rescue us. Those with exhorbitant wealth wouldn’t be doing this out of the goodness of their hearts, the club would be used as a political vehicle or for profit. Although considering the value of our club, it would almost certainly be for profit again.
Anyone praying for new owners should consider the fact that if we were to be bought by another, it certainly won’t be to rescue us. Those with exhorbitant wealth wouldn’t be doing this out of the goodness of their hearts, the club would be used as a political vehicle or for profit. Although considering the value of our club, it would almost certainly be for profit again.
FSG came in, immedately cleared the worst of Liverpool’s debt. Has taken £0 in dividends since. Lets the club use its own money. Even spent £110m on stadium improvements.
The Guardian:
It doesn’t really matter what happened to Liverpool back then though does it? There is no white knight who is coming to do the same for us, not for the minimum 3bn or so we would cost to acquire.
I’m afraid any changes in ownership for us is going to be a case of swapping one group of d**kheads for another.
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What you don’t seem to understand is that we don’t need an altruistic owner. FSG aren’t altruists. They’re content simply letting their asset increase in value. And fostering that growth from the bottom up with good football and no unnecessary money pits like interests and dividends.
Liverpool has increased in value from $552m to $2.2bn under their stewardship. Even though they haven’t taken a penny out of LFC, they would make a profit of at least a billion if they sold today.
FSG and Liverpool benefit mutually from their ownership. The Glazers on the other hand are only a burden, a parasite on United.
And possibly see us taking on much more debt in the process.
FSG and the Glazers got into football at the right time. We’re talking many billions for an acquisition now, and you can bet there won’t be much patience for return on investment.
Indeed. More debt and the possibility of financially irresponsible owners, which would be a significantly worse scenario than we have now.
Feck that - I'd happily take that risk rather than watch the slow strangulation that's taking place at the moment.
This might be a good thing
You see comments like “I’m done” if there’s a Saudi Takeover, most of these people won’t go anywhere.
No you wouldn’t
Yes I would
There is very few, if any, who would come in and be worse than the Glazers, they have put nothing in, and by the time they have gone they will have stripped bare.
As much have they have taken out, there has been enough money spent for the team to be competing for things, the mistake they have made, unlike the teams above us, is that they have steadfastly refused to put a proper structure in place to run things, and have just left Ed to it, there is not a chance this would happen again, as it is counter productive, and for us right now it just getting darn right bizarre that it is been allowed to continue. Also it is also highly unlikely that any other owners would be as financially irresponsible with us as that the Glazers have been, indeed I'm not even sure if their type of takeover is allowed anymore.
So I'd happily take my chances things will not be anything like as bad as they are now under new owners
Hey, hang on a second there sonny. You know they spent a little bit of their own money right?And to think we have actual glazer bootlickers here
Paddy Crerand fans phone in was cancelled by MUTV tonight, the club has not tweeted since yesterday. The Twitter accounts of club sponsors are being bombarded with #GlazersOut.
They will probably be back on air next Monday and come out with some really lame excuse about why the show got cancelled
Goodness me.
Ed managed their take over of Man United. Since Fergie stepped down, He has been installed to serve their commercial interests and nothing else.
I’d happily take a chance on a new owner who might also be shit
They're not going anywhere unfortunately.
That would make a good Tshirt slogan, since it rhymes and stuff.
Excellent pragmatic non-hysterical post.
Nail. Head. Hit.
The influence of the owners continue , the fees asked are outlandish and will not be paid in this crazy transfer summer market. Could it be that Woodward and the Glazers are telling all and sundry that they won't spend to strengthen the mid table squad that has been assembled over the past 4/5 years.
Seems we have been warned not to expect to compete with Citeh, Real and others, just to be satisfied with past glories and sit back like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers , oh well .
Seems we have been warned not to expect to compete with Citeh, Real and others, just to be satisfied with past glories and sit back like the Tampa Bay Buccaneers , oh well .
It shouldn't be oh well. Continue the #GlazersOut movement and changes will be made.
Unlikely.
Darcie Glazer, one of the owners of Manchester United, takes out a loan secured on 393,000 shares in #MUFC, worth about $6.9 million https://t.co/c77ku16UsY
Levy, arsenal owner, Newcastle owner, and countless failed owners from epl alone. There's alot of bad apples out there.
Levy is lucky he has poch and kane. He's known to be stingy
Green and gold until we win the league.
If next year we win the league nobody would critized them.
Speak for yourself buddy. Plenty of us were criticising them back in the days when Fergie had us winning the league most seasons and made us Champions of Europe.
I see no scarfs when we're winning. Do you?
eh? The Green and Gold campaign was back in the days when we were winning the league every other year...
and why does that make him a "failed owner"?
He never spend.