What? Moyes was given a 5 year contract and sacked within a year. LVG was anti-buying Di Maria, but the club over ruled his wishes. LVG won the FA Cup and was sacked the next day, the press knew about his sacking before he did. Jose wanted several players sold and several players bought, but Woodward ignored his wishes and gave long-term contracts to fools and tried to buy players who were overpriced and never wanted to join anyway. If you think this is how you back someone then we're doomed.
And rightly so, why wouldn't he of been sacked? He failed spectacularly.
I liked and do like LVG, But I'd also not be so stupid / naive (call it what you will) and not consider it was him saving his already bruised ego. ADM was one of the best wide attacking players in world football at the time. I don't buy for a second he was against it and admitted he already rated him, he simply couldn't get the best from him and chooses to deflect blame, exactly like Jose done time and time again by undermining the club whilst talking up former glories.
BTW, The press knew about LVG's sacking thanks to Jose's agent Jorge Mendes. He leaked it to the press right after the FA Cup Final, but yeah whatever suits your narrative.
Incidentally Keefy, where do you sit in the ground?
I ask because Im curious to what the fellow season ticket holders think of your views as you chat prior to kick of and half time?
Ive never met a single fan withing the ground who think our owners and the corporate fetus are actually good for the club..I only hear negativity..and this goes all the way back to SAF reign under the Glazer takeover and continues until today..Even travelling on public transport to and from the game with all manner of match going fans.
If the clubs most successful period under Glazer/corporate fetus was in ANY way a contributing factor to Manchester Uniteds success, they would have maintained some semblance of success post SAF & Gill.
But the fact is we have nose dived on the pitch and all our rivals and lower teams have caught us up and over taken us from a football perspective. This is a prime indicator that we have owners who are detrimental to Manchester United.
And whilst you are pissing all over our history, I think you need to remember 'The Busy Babes' and their sacrifice and the adversity.
The Ground being bombed in the war and the adversity to follow.
The FA & Fifa trying to nobble us in the mid 90's onwards when we were getting very powerful (remember the home grown talent rule forcing us us to sell??) and the adversities that followed.
And last but not least..the whole mess that allowed the Glazers to buy something they could never afford when John Magnier dumped his entire share stock to allow the Glazer takeover bid (cue: J P Morgan and the corporate fetus), which has foisted the biggest adversity on our club to date.
#WeWillOvercome
I couldn't give a brass monkeys what others think mate, everyone is entitled to their own opinions or at least you'd think unless you read on here cause all you get is mindless waffle posted with the same ignorant and ill informed, poorly research nonsense posted over and over again.
The bit in bold, or you know it could be due to the fact that we had 1 manager who ruled all with an iron fist and gave us many years of great times and now as a club we are struggling to modernize.
We didn't even have a feckin scouting system in place with Ferguson there for god sake, this has only been rolled out in recent years by whom? Have a guess, it'll kill you to say it, Woodward. It stuff like this that has the club struggling to get all the pieces together quickly whilst trying to compete with billionaire owners and a restructuring of TV revenue.
The post Ferguson years were always going to be a struggle, for anyone living in reality but folks like you seem to think we should of just kept walking to leagues indefinitely.
And finally no I'm not pissing on the clubs history, I'm fully aware of the sacrifices made by Busby, his staff and players! Funnily enough it was another poster on here of the anti glazer kind who said they were worse than the Munich disaster. I was the one who pulled him up over it and no other. Goes to show how incredibly warped some of you lot are, hidden agendas and ignoring comments like that, but would rather pull me up over my comments?
I know the clubs history, pity here many have rose tinted goggles on and post sentiments suggesting we've dominated consistently through our history, we haven't. That's just how it is! I wish it were otherwise but it's not and we've had plenty of dark days through our history and comparing the Glazer ownership to former greats of our club giving their lives up to it as some have is nothing short of absolutely idiotic and more importantly disgusting!
We are now one of, if not the highest earning club on the planet now though. Pointing out that we have been historically crap a lot of the time isn't any justification for us not taking advantage of our high standing in world football these days. We might be overachieving relative to many old Utd teams but we are severely underachieving relative to the spending power we have in the modern game.
Our earnings mean little when you've Oil rich Sugar daddies funding other clubs that belittle that earning. This is the point you are missing!
Previously we still had that revenue stream above other clubs and there was no sugar daddy owners.
Understand the difference now?
I think this Keefy18 is someone clearly suffering Glazer / Woodward Stockholm syndrome.
He’s been spouting nonsense for a few weeks now about Glazers. Making up warped facts as he goes along to suit his arguments which are that all fans don’t quite see the bigger the picture. I would argue that he might get the vote for most unpopular poster on this forum.
What have I made up?
It's the anti Glazer sort that sees any old nonsense on twitter and takes it as fact.
At least put the effort in to take what they've posted and go research it and form your opinions on the back of that.