Hargreaves vs. Carrick, Feadingseagulls vs. Noodle, Chief (Bayern Fan!) vs. Logic

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  1. Mar 24, 2008

    mehro Ass face

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    I didn't give them much attention, just assumed they were pigeons, probably part of your porn collection.
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    robthered Full Member

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    Um. There were a few posts on here banging on about Carrick not getting picked for England, Cappelo's knowledge being greater than ours etc.

    So how do you explain Sunday then?
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    Wonder Pigeon 'Shelbourne FC Supporter'

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    KingEric7 Stupid Conspiracy Enthusiast Wanker

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    It's obviously because they are English.

    It was probably extremely annoying when Rio, Carrick, Scholes and Rooney all had fantastic games, with Wes Brown also getting on the scoresheet.
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    Wonder Pigeon 'Shelbourne FC Supporter'

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    You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little fecked up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to feckin' amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?
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    Chapster Full Member

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    FFS :lol::lol::lol:
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    Wes New Member

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    so anyway, Hargreaves is shite, innit.
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    mu77 New Member

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    i can't wait for the next edition of caftards. makes this thread worth it. maybe plech should go way OTT and do "cafetards the movie".
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    Mozza It’s Carrick you know

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    Carrick would surely use a rapier rather then a broadsword, the club is about right for Hargreaves
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    Plechazunga Grammar partisan who sleeps with a real life Ryan

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    Rapier. That's the word I was looking for.
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    RapidRed Full Member

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    :lol:

    that comic is great, Plech.
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    Feedingseagulls Full Member

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    Did you notice the different senses of 'giving somone a chance' employed?

    No - thought not! So here it is again.

    1 'We'll give him some time before we pass final judgement' - admirable of itself - and your own view. In this sense - 'not giving someone a chance' means not waiting.

    However, whenever you make a judgement, it is very important how people weigh evidence and make those judgements.

    2 Best portrayed in the negative: 'We'll always interpret his play in the worst possible light' and use that portrayal when making our judgements whenever they are made. (Eg. he mustn't run around so much - but he mustn't be more static either.)

    This sense is the important one - and the one I addressed - since if this type of prejudice is occurring it doesn't really matter if time is given or not.

    Hence the second type was the one on which I concentrated. You are right to mention your intention to adopt the first - but your contribution helped constitute an example of the first, more important, one which I clearly indicated in those posts.

    Please do not confuse the two senses in your next post.
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    Feedingseagulls Full Member

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    If you have a frozen peacock and it's a fairly young one you should really cook it.
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    RedNome Cnut Rating: 9 (Conservative)

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    You really are THE most boring poster on these boards.

    Just give it a rest ffs.
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    Feedingseagulls Full Member

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    In that case, whilst I can see the 'paranoid' refs - I can also completely understand someone's annoyance that you choose to use the genocidal Nazis top describe them as opposed to some other paranoid delusional characters.

    Employing those Nazis seems wrong on 2 levels:

    1 far too many negative connotations against your 'victim'.

    2 trivialising the actions of the Nazis.

    Whilst I still maintain these aren't 'racist' - there are very much in poor taste.
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    Feedingseagulls Full Member

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    Ok - let's take a quick look at this 'joke'...


    It seems to relate to OH leaving a midfield player to be dealt with by other members of his team whilst he covers space closer to the ball.

    Against Liverpool on Sun (poss about 26 mins in?) Carrick abandons Gerrard to help occupy space close to our right-back and leaves his many team-mates to deal with the midfielder. The ball ends up at Gerrard's feet with Carrick nowhere and luckily his shot, when deflected, goes safe - so no major repercussions.

    Yet the perceived fault is very similar - one left Fabregas to his team-mates - the other left Gerrard - one is vilified - the other lauded.

    For the record - Carrick was decent today (despite a flurry of poor passes during that bad patch in the 2nd half) - and very good in patches.

    Also, for the record, a number of regular match-going-reds in my area were continually asserting that Carrick was (and pretty much always has been) shit - which rather goes against the idea that those seeing games live all rate him highly.
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    Feedingseagulls Full Member

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    Let's see - kf wants to say because he is 'giving a chance' in one sense, I should not use the other part of his post to point out that a group of posters are not 'giving a chance' in another sense. Why?

    Have you even bothered to read the original posts concerned?

    Let's use different phrases to solve the problem:

    The anti-Hargreaves posters 'will not let him win' : as a group they will consistently portray everything he does in the worst possible light - they will interpret his actions so that he is 'damned if he does & damned if he doesn't'.

    Getting it yet? :D
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