The only way I can see this happening is if Harry hands in a transfer request.https://www.bbc.com/sport/av/football/49052482
Ornstein is saying United and City are refusing to pay what Leicester are asking. And from reports it seems that United may have started looking elsewhere
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I suspect we are much more than £5m apart, otherwise it would be done by now.170+ pages on arguing on whether we should buy Maguire or not, this is sensational.
Thing that gets me is we must be talking to Leicester on a daily basis and by the sounds of it we are about 5M apart on valuation, FFS just agree it or pull out, feels like this summer has been in slow motion!
Good. It was silly money to begin with. If we're to overpay for anyone, I'd rather it be Koulibaly.https://www.bbc.com/sport/av/football/49052482
Ornstein is saying United and City are refusing to pay what Leicester are asking. And from reports it seems that United may have started looking elsewhere
Most probably.I suspect we are much more than £5m apart, otherwise it would be done by now.
But it won't be him either, Maguire would have been a cheaper option to that deal, so now we need a cheaper option to Maguire, I wonder who's third on the list.Good. It was silly money to begin with. If we're to overpay for anyone, I'd rather it be Koulibaly.
Not so sure of that either. He has no experience in epl, would cost even more and he s older than MaguireGood. It was silly money to begin with. If we're to overpay for anyone, I'd rather it be Koulibaly.
Alderweireld, Tierney and Ziyech would cost the same as Maguire...But it won't be him either, Maguire would have been a cheaper option to that deal, so now we need a cheaper option to Maguire, I wonder who's third on the list.
We bid a premium on his value in the current market, if reports are to believed. It's pretty obvious it's just not as easy as fans think it is to sign a player. Unless you pay their release clause or bid exactly what the selling club is asking for. At the end of the day Leicester aren't that keen to sell and he's not forcing a move. So if United have given their highest bid and it's been refused then it's time to start negotiating with another club for another player and it won't be an over night thing.It's painful, one transfer at a time, and spend 4-5 weeks on each one.
If Leicester were asking £100 million, we'd be there bidding £95 million just to drag it out.
Diaz - 66m ?, Diop - 70 m?, Milenkovic ?But it won't be him either, Maguire would have been a cheaper option to that deal, so now we need a cheaper option to Maguire, I wonder who's third on the list.
Good. It was silly money to begin with. If we're to overpay for anyone, I'd rather it be Koulibaly.
Koulibaly would cost more for a reason, he is a world class defenderNot so sure of that either. He has no experience in epl, would cost even more and he s older than Maguire
Didn't know Tierney and ziyech can play cbAlderweireld, Tierney and Ziyech would cost the same as Maguire...
Maybe the third on the list could be Milenkovic.
Apparently there are rumours that he started making some noise but nothing confirm edLooks like a brief from Woody so that slabhead starts really putting pressure on Leicester
Sounds like a brief to aid negotiations. I'd be surprised if we turned to alternatives because the only viable one appears to be Koulibaly and hel be even more expensive. Not sure who else there is - if it were Toby I'd have thought we'd sign him by now anyway.Tweet
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Yeah, I agree. I think it’s Leicester holding out for an absurd fee, with nearly all of it up front.Most probably.
It could be either our offer is lower than that stated in media or else they are refusing to go down a penny from 80-90million valuation. Being a sellers market I think it s more of the latter.
But it won't be him either, Maguire would have been a cheaper option to that deal, so now we need a cheaper option to Maguire, I wonder who's third on the list.
I said it as a hypothetical tbf. I know it isn't realistic, but if there was one CB we overpay for, then it would be him.Not so sure of that either. He has no experience in epl, would cost even more and he s older than Maguire
We bid a premium on his value in the current market, if reports are to believed. It's pretty obvious it's just not as easy as fans think it is to sign a player. Unless you pay their release clause or bid exactly what the selling club is asking for. At the end of the day Leicester aren't that keen to sell and he's not forcing a move. So if United have given their highest bid and it's been refused then it's time to start negotiating with another club for another player and it won't be an over night thing.
If you look at the Lukaku and Pogba sagas, these have been going on for an eternity, with no end in sight.
Not everything is a briefing! Not directed to you but its turned into a meme on here.Sounds like a brief to aid negotiations. I'd be surprised if we turned to alternatives because the only viable one appears to be Koulibaly and hel be even more expensive. Not sure who else there is - if it were Toby I'd have thought we'd sign him by now anyway.
He is better the question will be is he 40m more. Or is diop 15m less value?I’ve seen nothing to suggest that Koulibaly is world class compared to Harry.
Leicester don't need the money, so being an elite club generally counts for very little, when it comes to players on long term contracts. I'd say Diop was already explored and passed on for fee quoted. I'd say it'll be someone a bit off the radar or Maguire will try force a move.That's fine, but we need to weigh up if we're likely going to be successful in the bid quicker than this, if as some say Diop is likely the fallback option, then that's another £10 m on his asking price, as now we are looking even more desperate. And much as some scoff at the one player at a time thing, there's clearly a lot of truth in it, so how we think we have all this time is beyond me.
The Pogba and Lukaku situations are very different, there's still a hierarchy in football, & we can just about still pretend to be one of the elite clubs in the transfer market, so buying from those sort of clubs, is hopefully still very different than buying from Leicester for example.
Plus Toby’s £25 release clause expires in 7 days.Sounds like a brief to aid negotiations. I'd be surprised if we turned to alternatives because the only viable one appears to be Koulibaly and hel be even more expensive. Not sure who else there is - if it were Toby I'd have thought we'd sign him by now anyway.
I really like Diop and what he would bring to us if he came, but the precise issue we have is that we have an abundance of young CBs or CBs who need their hands held rather than leaders. Diop is someone who I'd say is in the former camp and wouldn't do much to improve our defence in the short term.He is better the question will be is he 40m more. Or is diop 15m less value?
He's been very good, but I don't see him being a leader in defence.I hope we go for Nathan Ake
I’m glad you aren’t in charge of transfers.I hope we go for Nathan Ake
Ah the classic "brief", one of my favourite redcafisms alongside of "Money back through shirt sales" and "new York stock market"Sounds like a brief to aid negotiations. I'd be surprised if we turned to alternatives because the only viable one appears to be Koulibaly and hel be even more expensive. Not sure who else there is - if it were Toby I'd have thought we'd sign him by now anyway.
5ft 11. Not great in the air. Not for me.I hope we go for Nathan Ake
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Height is not important in every game. When we come up against a tall attacker we can use Smalling. Ake can also cover for Shaw
Apart from Lindelof he is better than any technically defender we have nowWe need someone who is going to come in and be our best defender. Who plays in any game.
If we buy Ake, we're bringing in a similar level to what we have - ie totally pointless.
