Were you saying the same when we bought Ferdinand for nearly £30m in 2002. People even had their doubts about him back then too.
English, PL proven, decent age you are always going to have to pay that bit more.
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English, PL proven, decent age you are always going to have to pay that bit more.
As with all transfers, the price will only matter if Harry is shit. If he comes in and has a great season, it will be an irrelevance.
Exactly, the premier league is so rich now even mid table teams can reject crazy bids. If we want targets we have to pay over the top.
Who had their doubts?
It was just about the fee which was a lot at the time. I think £80 million today is still more in comparison to £30 million for Rio back then
Does Maguire improve our defence - Yes.
Did I pay 60m plus 20m add ons - No.
I'm I happy bear hug Smalling will be benched - Yes.
Am I a miserable glass half empty kinda guy - No.
I'm I happy for Maguire hopefully signing - Yes.
If City had signed him would Redcafe whinge - Yes.
If United sign him will Redcafe whinge - Yes.
Did I pay 60m plus 20m add ons - No.
I'm I happy bear hug Smalling will be benched - Yes.
Am I a miserable glass half empty kinda guy - No.
I'm I happy for Maguire hopefully signing - Yes.
If City had signed him would Redcafe whinge - Yes.
If United sign him will Redcafe whinge - Yes.
I remember people had their doubts with Rio. Obviously was a brilliant talent but reservations over his attitude for the highest levels.
I remember someone posted a thread from here at the time. People were questioning the fee not the player
Perhaps because we are unable to negotiate a lower fee. At this point in time, we need a defender who is immediately and significantly better than what we have - hence the price.
I love it, throwing all these names of legends just to justify it and make sense of buying a brick.
He's a slab, not a brick.
You made me google slab, hate you.
it doesn't say much for our scouting network that after a worldwide search for a Central defender has resulted in a huge deal for Harry Maguire
That's just not true . Ferdinand had alot to prove when he came to United and for that huge fee at the time . He had some rocky moments in a Leeds shirt . Both the fee and him as a player where questioned ..
I absolutely love this forum, jesus we could go out and buy De Ligt and Koulibaly and this forum would go find a reason to go into meltdown.
Massively improves us, offers us a goal threat from set plays, brings the ball out of defence, gets his head on everything, commanding, vocal, buzzing, him and Lindelof happy days, hopefully with Tuanzebe as back up with Bailly and we can finally bin off the chuckle brothers, 80m, who gives a shit, better than lining the Glazers pockets.
Stop whinging and be happy that we could finally have a half decent back 4 for the first time since Fergie left.
Massively improves us, offers us a goal threat from set plays, brings the ball out of defence, gets his head on everything, commanding, vocal, buzzing, him and Lindelof happy days, hopefully with Tuanzebe as back up with Bailly and we can finally bin off the chuckle brothers, 80m, who gives a shit, better than lining the Glazers pockets.
Stop whinging and be happy that we could finally have a half decent back 4 for the first time since Fergie left.
Prem proven, can instantly improve us, good age, and unlikely to want to move on in a year or two. This deal makes sense and I don't get why so many are confused.
Probably also a psychological reason. Bet on a conservative decision. It´s not only about hard facts.
Oh don't get me wrong, their has to be a structure in terms of prices paid relative to experience and PL exposure.
Longstaff at the quoted price would be ridiculous. Longstaff at a more modest 20 to 30m would probably be welcomed, because if it fails it's not touching record fees.
The players are definitely out there, but clearly there is someone at the club who doesn't like this model but as noted earlier thankfully we have James in who may fulfil that criteria.
Seal Maguire and a midfielder and it's relatively productive, although clearly just the start of a massive structural rebuild, along with Wan Bissaka who is somewhere in-between prospect and kind of has to deliver.
it's weird that people would prefer to have money in a bank rather than improve our defence. it's clear now that it's either Maguire or no one. i'll take the guy that improves us, thanks.
Slabby, slabby cool
Are all these last pages based on a story/fib written in The S*n by one of their less credible fibbers/writers, and that most journalist say isn’t true? Or have I missed something (not unlikely)?
Whilst i dont mind the addition of Maguire, and it shows we will spend money which is good, the problem is that this is now the the guy we will be building the defense around, and no defender will be bought for the next few years as we would have invested so heavily in one player. that being the case, should we not be aiming for a higher caliber player around which to base the defense ?
There's plenty of players who fit that description. Defensively its arguable he doesnt fit it himself
Is that you Chris D’Elia?
‘I remember people doubted Rio’ is the worst argument for signing Maguire. Is that what it has come down to? Well I doubted Phil Jones, who is far more similar in play style. At 26 I don’t see Maguire ever becoming world class.
Maguire improves us but as I’ve said before, it’s like paying Hugo Boss prices for a Next suit, simply because it’s better than the suit you currently have.
Maguire improves us but as I’ve said before, it’s like paying Hugo Boss prices for a Next suit, simply because it’s better than the suit you currently have.
6m for Vida would easily be 15m in today's market.
Ferdinand was a world class talent, it was obvious even when he was 18 years old, he was the De Ligt of 90’s English football.
Out in Thailand and my phone is locked so very limited access to Internet. Can someone please update me on Maguire? Have we actually bid 80m?
I suppose he makes sense since we intend to play counter attacking football and defend deep ala Vidic and Rio late in their career. This helps to mask his main weakness - his lack of pace and hence professional fouls when he's caught out.
Only Sun have reported it and xisimon who is "ITK" confirmed signing is done. Telegraph and BBC reported no bids are made.
More than anything it makes sense having aerial presence when our high press forces opposition to hoof it to their no.9
Nope. Nonsense sources saying fee agreed. Reliable sources saying nothing has happened.
There were lots of players who cost more than £30 million+ back then when Rio was signed. I think there are less players who cost £80 million+ today
BBC pretty much reports what the club feeds them.
Thank you matw
Just think of it this way, whatever the fee is, that sum of money won't be taken out of the club by the Glazers..!
It wouldn't have anyway.
I think he would become a great Utd defender.
Utd have paid high prices for quality before.
Utd have paid high prices for quality before.
I'm down with Harry.
Local lad, want's to stay on top of his English career so he'll probably be on top of things.
No language barriers, he's big, strong fella, knows the league, knows the opposition well, bossed some of them, including us a couple of times.
The money i don't give a shit. Who gives a feck, not my money. Just perform and he'll make us happy.
Local lad, want's to stay on top of his English career so he'll probably be on top of things.
No language barriers, he's big, strong fella, knows the league, knows the opposition well, bossed some of them, including us a couple of times.
The money i don't give a shit. Who gives a feck, not my money. Just perform and he'll make us happy.
we just spent £55m on a RB with no international caps
Completely agree with you.
He is big and strong and will give us a commanding presence in defence.
Of course the money is mad. But in reality who cares as long as he improves us.
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