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Mike is a tough dude, he can handle it.Change the thread title to “Spelling Bashing Thread”.
Poor Smalling has had enough.
Mike is a tough dude, he can handle it.Change the thread title to “Spelling Bashing Thread”.
Poor Smalling has had enough.
Jones 27? He's been around for ever.Rojo 29 years old
Smalling 29 years old
Jones 27 years old.
Only Tuanzebe is the young talented CB we have at the moment. That's why Alderweireld + Konate sounds a better deal than just Maguire. I agree with you about transfers to improve our squad now. For that reason, I think that Alderweireld + Ndidi would be a better improvement than just Maguire (considering that we have to strenth other positions).
IMO a young CB like De Ligt, Upamecano, Konate, etc would have a better resale value than Maguire... But then again, I could be wrong. I hope Maguire ends up being world-class for us and we get more players so we don't rely on Matic and Lingard in the positions we need to strengthen.
I'm just doing my part in the "Let's Bash Chris Smalling" thread, and some people seem to be taking it personally.So he was just injured for fun? Injuries don't hamper performance? I'm sure next you'll be using Maguire outjumping an injured Smalling to level the match recently as something against Smalling.
Two good players for the same position add less value than one very good player. Maguire plays better than Alderweireld or Konate, whereas neither Alderweireld nor Konate play better than Lindelof. Additionally, Alderweireld is very injury prone whereas Maguire is nearly always fit to play.That's why Alderweireld + Konate sounds a better deal than just Maguire.
All of the posts I have read of his are borderline hysterical. Either people are losing any sort of self awareness or the average age of the 'caf is flatlining below 13 years old. Either or - it's pathetic and tiresome.You have 27 posts in this thread. That's over 8% of all your posts. It's only a saga because you make it one.
Please can you stop posting like this. I’m tired of it now.Please can this saga end one way or another. I’m tired of it now.
That has to be the meaningless stat....as if any one person is responsible for a clean sheet?What about how many clean sheets?
If it’s so meaningless why do goalkeepers and defenders get clean sheet bonus’ written into their contracts?That has to be the meaningless stat....as if any one person is responsible for a clean sheet?
Agreed. I always prefer quality over quantity. Maybe I don't rate Maguire as high as other posters. But you are totally right about that.Two good players for the same position add less value than one very good player. Maguire plays better than Alderweireld or Konate, whereas neither Alderweireld nor Konate play better than Lindelof. Additionally, Alderweireld is very injury prone whereas Maguire is nearly always fit to play.
You're conflating two different things. Of course if goalkeepers/defenders are part of a side that gets a clean sheet it's not unreasonable to attribute a bonus to the players for that game.If it’s so meaningless why do goalkeepers and defenders get clean sheet bonus’ written into their contracts?
How do you know what is written into goalkeepers and defenders contracts?If it’s so meaningless why do goalkeepers and defenders get clean sheet bonus’ written into their contracts?
We can buy Maguire (hopefully we have funds for it), then buy an attacker with Lukaku money (preferably someone who may play as the right forward, but someone like Dybala would also work), and then buy a midfielder with funds raised by deadwood sales (I dont think it would be THAT difficult to sell Darmian for 10m, Rojo for 15m, and Bailly for 25-30m - that's 50-55m already).IMO we need to strength at least 3 positions this summer. That's why I mentioned that I prefer to improve 2 positions for 80m than just one. Ndidi + talented young CB would be the ideal scenario for me. But then again, that's my personal preference.
fecking hell mate are you listening to yourself here? You seriously think Manchester United made up a story about Smalling breaking his toe and then just didn't play him for 8 weeks to make it seem legitimate?I'm just doing my part in the "Let's Bash Chris Smalling" thread, and some people seem to be taking it personally.
He was partly responsible for every goal Chelsea scored that day, so naturally the club would leak some excuse on his behalf. That explanation seems far more likely than Mourinho holding a gun to his head and forcing him to play.
Chelsea were really good that year and exposed how bad our defenders really are, Smalling especially. It's as simple as that. If we were playing Fenerbahce at Old Trafford again, like we did a few days before, we probably would have kept another clean sheet. But since we were playing the best team in the league, we conceded four goals, and our defenders were exposed as being crap -- Smalling especially.
Well obviously I don’t know the contract of every keeper and defender in the world .How do you know what is written into goalkeepers and defenders contracts?
This is the worst post everHe was partly responsible for every goal Chelsea scored that day, so naturally the club would leak some excuse on his behalf. That explanation seems far more likely than Mourinho holding a gun to his head and forcing him to play.
Can't remember ever seeing Utd so odds on to sign a player but still nothing concrete from any credible sources.Usually Smalling and Jones perform better when they have a commanding defender besides them.
He's a year and a half older than Jesse "youth potential" lingard.Jones 27? He's been around for ever.
Okay, if the toe injury was so debilitating, why did he play for 90 minutes without a visible limp? Why did United's medical staff, whose job it is to protect him, allow him to play?fecking hell mate are you listening to yourself here? You seriously think Manchester United made up a story about Smalling breaking his toe and then just didn't play him for 8 weeks to make it seem legitimate?
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/563117/Chris-Smalling-injury-Manchester-United-news
For the record Mourinho and the club actually refused to confirm whether he had broken his toe or even what sort of injury he was out with. The type of injury he had wasn't confirmed until January 2017 when Smalling came back.
But hey don't let any of that get in the way of your conspiracy theories mate.
No idea. I wouldn't imagine either of them are covered in glory on that front. I was simply pointing out that Jones having far more own goals in him than Smalling was not correct.What about how many clean sheets?
Nah wrong thread you’re thinking of F1.
Add to that a lot nore injuries and yellow cards.No idea. I wouldn't imagine either of them are covered in glory on that front. I was simply pointing out that Jones having far more own goals in him than Smalling was not correct.
Neither of them strike me as a leader. Leicester improves dramatically when we brought in Robert Huth to play alongside Wes Morgan. Whilst neither were in the prime of their career, that organisationally ability and game management made us more of a solid unit.Usually Smalling and Jones perform better when they have a commanding defender besides them.
because we want to rock the world and the stock market by announcing three players at once?
I find your point in bold high unlikely although not impossible and would extremely happy, if it happenedHow about this one: We are delaying an announcement because we want to rock the world and the stock market by announcing three players at once? It's not likely, but it's certainly a possibility. Quite how we are getting everyone to play along is a mystery.
Sorry but this is bollocks. He played because at the time Jose had been in the press criticising players for not being tough enough to play through injuries and Utd players were injury prone. No one knew who he meant but fingers were pointing at Smalling and I believe Luke Shaw?Okay, if the toe injury was so debilitating, why did he play for 90 minutes without a visible limp? Why did United's medical staff, whose job it is to protect him, allow him to play?
Players play with injuries all the time, I'm guessing many with injuries as bad as Smalling's, but rarely use it as an excuse for being crap. And, apparently, this injury is still affecting him because he's still a crap defender. I hope he spends more time out and gets his toe injury properly fixed this time.
Also, The Daily Star is a garbage tabloid, so I'm not reading whatever article you linked to.
Maguire would solidify our defence. United always recruits the top English centre back, which Maguire is currently.If you could sign just one player from Leicester, would you prefer Maguire over Ndidi or Maddison?
Congrats on writing the funniest post of the day - now not only is Smalling 'utter shite' but we have a conspiracy from the manager and medical staff to cover up for him ..... worth remembering vaccinations are evil, the world is flat and man never walked on the moon mate!Okay, if the toe injury was so debilitating, why did he play for 90 minutes without a visible limp? Why did United's medical staff, whose job it is to protect him, allow him to play?
Players play with injuries all the time, I'm guessing many with injuries as bad as Smalling's, but rarely use it as an excuse for being crap. And, apparently, this injury is still affecting him because he's still a crap defender. I hope he spends more time out and gets his toe injury properly fixed this time.
Also, The Daily Star is a garbage tabloid, so I'm not reading whatever article you linked to.
You are absolutely fecking deluded mate, deluded.Okay, if the toe injury was so debilitating, why did he play for 90 minutes without a visible limp? Why did United's medical staff, whose job it is to protect him, allow him to play?
Players play with injuries all the time, I'm guessing many with injuries as bad as Smalling's, but rarely use it as an excuse for being crap. And, apparently, this injury is still affecting him because he's still a crap defender. I hope he spends more time out and gets his toe injury properly fixed this time.
Also, The Daily Star is a garbage tabloid, so I'm not reading whatever article you linked to.
you mean like when smalling constantly breaks play up at the half way line?If better defender means sitting in our box and clearing crosses like your typical Burnley side I agree he's our best defender. And if we start playing like that Smalling will be back in no time.
If defending means playing far away from our goal and not actually doing much defending because attack is the best form of the defence he won't be required.
It depends which way the manager intends to play.
My posts in this have been tongue in cheek, or trying to jinx this deal into happening, still pretty tongue in cheek I assure you I'm not losing sleep over this, well, only a few nights a week As it's borderlining on shitposting now I will stopAll of the posts I have read of his are borderline hysterical. Either people are losing any sort of self awareness or the average age of the 'caf is flatlining below 13 years old. Either or - it's pathetic and tiresome.
I've been going overboard with the Jinxes and shit stirring , I've got the old muppet fever. I will stopPlease can you stop posting like this. I’m tired of it now.
fair enough. It's hard to discern between those that indulge in the summer madness lightheartedly and those that actually seem on the verge of a mental breakdown on a daily basis.My posts in this have been tongue in cheek, or trying to jinx this deal into happening, still pretty tongue in cheek I assure you I'm not losing sleep over this, well, only a few nights a week As it's borderlining on shitposting now I will stop
Yeah to be fair the LCB/RCB makes sense, could not tell you what side Maguire plays on tbh but if he is left then he would compliment him better, 80M just hope his lack of defending ability on the turn and his lack of pace don't come back to bite us in the ass.I don’t need to make you look or sound like anything. I’m not, infact.
There’s clearly a huge barrier in logic between us here. Bailly and Tuanzebe look significantly more comfortable on the right. So does Lindelof, albeit he can shift across with more ease because his left foot is stronger. Smalling looks wooden on the left side, too. Jones is the only player that has spent large parts of his career playing there, a little like Maguire. So when you go to buy a new centre half, you buy according to your strengths. And it seems to me that Ole would like to use Lindelof on his best side. Therefore, a player that is better on the left makes sense. Hence Maguire.
I don’t know why Mourinho looked to buy both Bailly and Lindelof. Not one of them can really head the ball so I’d put that down to just another example of piss poor management on his part. But they’re never going to work as a partnership. And I wouldn’t back Alderweireld to partner them either given his lack of prowess in the air, too.
Yes, I’d be very surprised if Alderweireld hasn’t been replaced by Spurs for somebody better and younger by the time he is 32. On less wages, too. I’d be surprised if he’s playing in the Premier League. Another big side in a less physical league? Perhaps so, but another 32 year old on our books just isn’t what we need at United, at this time.