Has political correctness actually gone mad?

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Hardly PC gone mad, but this seems like the place to post it.

A 17 year old pizza courier has filed charges against two 25 year old women for sexually harassing him when he delivired their pizza. They opened the door in lingery and proceeded to grab him in the crotch and told him, this is our dream, this is your dream, we want you blabla. Obviously a very wrong thing to do.

The twist however; the perps are two exceedingly hot FHM models.

Doesn't make it right, but kind of took me by surprise.

Article is here: https://nos.nl/artikel/2402307-om-wil-cel-voor-vrouwen-die-pizzabezorger-17-wilden-verleiden

Though it is in Dutch.
I mean, you could have told us there are no pics in the link, what a waste of a click.
 

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Hardly PC gone mad, but this seems like the place to post it.

A 17 year old pizza courier has filed charges against two 25 year old women for sexually harassing him when he delivired their pizza. They opened the door in lingery and proceeded to grab him in the crotch and told him, this is our dream, this is your dream, we want you blabla. Obviously a very wrong thing to do.

The twist however; the perps are two exceedingly hot FHM models.

Doesn't make it right, but kind of took me by surprise.

Article is here: https://nos.nl/artikel/2402307-om-wil-cel-voor-vrouwen-die-pizzabezorger-17-wilden-verleiden

Though it is in Dutch.


I really should grow up but I can't not uphold the double-standard. If a 17 year-old female pizza delivery worker was propositioned on the doorstep by two 25 men we'd be calling for their bollocks, but the other way round feels far less serious and the vast majority of people act like the cops in that South Park ep when they read such a story. Power imbalances, both physical and historical, must play a role in this and I for one find it hard to shake off, but the lad has every right to feel society needs to grow up and treat him like a victim in this case and not just take the piss.
 

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I really should grow up but I can't not uphold the double-standard. If a 17 year-old female pizza delivery worker was propositioned on the doorstep by two 25 men we'd be calling for their bollocks, but the other way round feels far less serious and the vast majority of people act like the cops in that South Park ep when they read such a story. Power imbalances, both physical and historical, must play a role in this and I for one find it hard to shake off, but the lad has every right to feel society needs to grow up and treat him like a victim in this case and not just take the piss.
In situations like these there's also good reason to suspect some hidden camera stuff. Either to humiliate by rejecting him once inside, or that he'd end up in a porn movie against his will.
 

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Thread title should be changed to 'Is political correctness actually suffering from mental health issues'.
 

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In situations like these there's also good reason to suspect some hidden camera stuff. Either to humiliate by rejecting him once inside, or that he'd end up in a porn movie against his will.
Yeah for sure, and in that case again it comes down to whether flipping the sexes of the people involved is a fair way to approach the situation. If a hidden camera show had 25 year old male actors propositioning a real-life 17 yo delivery girl the programme makers would get fecking destroyed, and rightly so, but hot 25 yo female models doing the same to a lad in his late teens seems less serious, and therefore more acceptable. Thinking about it for a second tells me this can't be right but instinctively I know there is a difference in seriousness between the two situations.
 

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Yeah for sure, and in that case again it comes down to whether flipping the sexes of the people involved is a fair way to approach the situation. If a hidden camera show had 25 year old male actors propositioning a real-life 17 yo delivery girl the programme makers would get fecking destroyed, and rightly so, but hot 25 yo female models doing the same to a lad in his late teens seems less serious, and therefore more acceptable. Thinking about it for a second tells me this can't be right but instinctively I know there is a difference in seriousness between the two situations.
There is an obvious difference though. The physical threat is much greater in the scenario where the girls is propositioned by two blokes. You also can’t ignore that sexual violence from men towards women is many many times more common than the reverse. So the girl would be a hell of a lot more likely to end up in a seriously nasty situation than the boy.
 

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There is an obvious difference though. The physical threat is much greater in the scenario where the girls is propositioned by two blokes. You also can’t ignore that sexual violence from men towards women is many many times more common than the reverse. So the girl would be a hell of a lot more likely to end up in a seriously nasty situation than the boy.
Yeah there clearly is a difference, but are 17 yo lads fair game in these kind of situations? Is it acceptable to laugh off their claims of discomfort or even deeper trauma with 'mate, I'd have given my eye teeth to be in that situation at 17, lucky bastard' etc.? The difficulty is some lads would certainly rise to such an occasion, so to speak, and as we've agreed there is a clear difference depending on which sex is doing what, but that doesn't help the poor lads who do genuinely feel violated being made figures of fun rather than being treated as victims.

In conclusion; yes it's less serious when the 'mark' is a boy rather than the reverse, but it's a shame that male claims of sexual assault/trauma are taken so much less seriously than those of females (though again there are obvious reasons why this is and indeed maybe has to be the case). I suppose one thing that would easily improve the situation is if everyone saved their lewd proposals for people who are 18+ (sorry Ike).
 

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In situations like these there's also good reason to suspect some hidden camera stuff. Either to humiliate by rejecting him once inside, or that he'd end up in a porn movie against his will.
They did actually record it. Their defense is they were just kidding and didn't realise he didn't like it.

I suspect these women have somehow bought into the notion that all men want to have sex with them at all times in any situation, because that's what happens in porn.

I hope they never have step children.
 

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They did actually record it. Their defense is they were just kidding and didn't realise he didn't like it.

I suspect these women have somehow bought into the notion that all men want to have sex with them at all times in any situation, because that's what happens in porn.

I hope they never have step children.
If they were recording it there’s a good chance they intended to monetise it, whatever they say in their defence.
 

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Is he taking the piss or is this the way he behaves I can’t tell?

Very much the way he behaves - tbh this interview is very much him talking about political correctness going mad. (his freestyle at the end is so bad, I just love the interviewer constantly saying 'yup' 'uh-huh'.


also if anyone doesn't know this youtube channel it's golden. He takes the Louis Theroux school of interviewing by just letting people talk themselves into their madness.
 

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The one I've noticed lately is people describing animal's owners as "their humans". Wonder do they need a licence for that?
Yeah, I sometimes do that. It's a bit of fun, for a light laugh, aha a ha.

Alright, it's not funny but sometimes it has a bit of truth in it. I don't think it's done in a manner of culturally appropriation of the term 'Pet''.
 

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Very much the way he behaves - tbh this interview is very much him talking about political correctness going mad. (his freestyle at the end is so bad, I just love the interviewer constantly saying 'yup' 'uh-huh'.


also if anyone doesn't know this youtube channel it's golden. He takes the Louis Theroux school of interviewing by just letting people talk themselves into their madness.
Jesus that’s a painful watch…
 

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also if anyone doesn't know this youtube channel it's golden. He takes the Louis Theroux school of interviewing by just letting people talk themselves into their madness.
Some crazy shit but all predictable from the strands of people most susceptible to these types of theories. You got the crazy religious right (who don't read books and "channel" the Voice of God), the disenchanted poor/rural white males who blame everything on "antifa" and BLM (including Jan. 6), the more well-to-do white people who made money without ever having to learn how to critically think or challenge ideas that go against their belief system (the bodybuilder), and the young people who just want to be part of something a little edgy and a little out of the mainstream because it makes them feel clued in and cool (girl with NY accent).

This cross-section will take some time (decade or two) to truly wither and die out, or it could actually morph into a new alternative religion as some fear.

Oh and I love the new theories that Prince and Kobe Bryant were assassinated because they had dirt on the Clintons.
 
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Destroy his sign
Now he has a stick
"ARRRGGGHHH HE'S GOT A WEAPON"

The only way this could have felt more like a South Park bit is if Officer Barbrady had came out and proceded to put 30 bullets in him.

The culture war is society's new religion but even still, "REPENT MOTHERFECKER" felt a bit too on the nose.
 

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They’re fecking nuts, aren’t they?

Agree with us or else we’ll cancel you!!! So much for being the most tolerant people in the room.
 

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Peak.

Dude has sign
Destroy his sign
Now he has a stick
"ARRRGGGHHH HE'S GOT A WEAPON"

The only way this could have felt more like a South Park bit is if Officer Barbrady had came out and proceded to put 30 bullets in him.

The culture war is society's new religion but even still, "REPENT MOTHERFECKER" felt a bit too on the nose.
Jesus Christ. :lol:

Thats a completely deranged lot right there.
 

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That woman with the tambourine is a fecking weirdo (they all are but she’s the worst in the video).
 

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Peak.

Dude has sign
Destroy his sign
Now he has a stick
"ARRRGGGHHH HE'S GOT A WEAPON"

The only way this could have felt more like a South Park bit is if Officer Barbrady had came out and proceded to put 30 bullets in him.

The culture war is society's new religion but even still, "REPENT MOTHERFECKER" felt a bit too on the nose.
The state of these cnuts.