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It annoys me that he says he is a cockney but actually just talks like one of those chavs.
Is he in about this bill in Alabama?A clear statement. So unusual for today's footballers.
Neither do America.NI do not run the world.
I wish famous people wouldn't make blanket statements like this. It doesn't feel like they are trying to understand the other side of the argument and just contributes to polarisation.Tweet
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Yea it's easy for footballers to write that opinion but I would be surprised to see a footballer say the opposite opinion, that abortion should be illegal and see how people react to that.Tweet
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Fist of all, yes. It is and has been so for at least half a century now. Unfortunate. But that's the truth.Is the world Americansed that much to the point that even back water states should be front and centre on fecking footballers minds?
I imagine those commenting know the background, in spite of this it is still an American issue, fundamentally it is up to the American people to decide their own laws.Fist of all, yes. It is and has been so for at least half a century now. Unfortunate. But that's the truth.
Secondly, this decision is a bit more monumental than just a backwater American state. The Republicans' strategy is deceivingly simple and monumentally fecked up. They have intentionally made this law super extreme (for example, not allowing rape victims to get abortions) so as to provoke local and state lawmakers to overturn/ block passage of its implementation. This would then allow the lawmakers to appeal to higher and higher courts until they reach the Supreme Court where the plan is to fight and try and overturn Roe v Wade
Apologies for this non-football post in the football forum. I'm still one like away from being able to post in the General Forums.
Northern Ireland is a Little country with a population of 1.8 million - what they do or don't do will never have an effect on the World in general. What happens in the US does have an effect.Is he in about this bill in Alabama?
If so, why would European football players making statements on American state politics?
Northern Ireland has similar laws but I bet he doesn’t even know that because it’s not that sexy American popcorn politics.
Why not, when the most powerful country in the world introduces a law that means its illegal to get an abortion even if you are raped. You don’t need to understand the other side of the argument, when it’s completly and utterly wrong.I wish famous people wouldn't make blanket statements like this. It doesn't feel like they are trying to understand the other side of the argument and just contributes to polarisation.
It's ludicrous for him to be wittering on about US state politics when the country that he has lived in for 8 years (and is pretty assimilated to) has the same laws in one constituent country. It only serves to highlight the absurd obsession people have with American politics.Northern Ireland is a Little country with a population of 1.8 million - what they do or don't do will never have an effect on the World in general. What happens in the US does have an effect.
Not at all, they are going in different directions, the abortion laws will likely be changed in NI once they have a functioning government, even if that takes some time there is a will to change it. Alabama are taking a retrograde step in regard to human rights.It's ludicrous for him to be wittering on about US state politics when the country that he has lived in for 8 years (and is pretty assimilated to) has the same laws in one constituent country. It only serves to highlight the absurd obsession people have with American politics.
It's absurd that he's calling out what's going on in America state politics when there are similar issues in GB. My point is that people obsess so much over American politics they neglect domestic politics which are far more important.Not at all, they are going in different directions, the abortion laws will likely be changed in NI once they have a functioning government, even if that takes some time there is a will to change it. Alabama are taking a retrograde step in regard to human rights.
Furthermore, why shouldn’t he talk about something that’s utterly absurd.
Yea it's easy for footballers to write that opinion but I would be surprised to see a footballer say the opposite opinion, that abortion should be illegal and see how people react to that.
I agree 100%.It's absurd that he's calling out what's going on in America state politics when there are similar issues in GB. My point is that people obsess so much over American politics they neglect domestic politics which are far more important.
I personally agree it is wrong, but a lot of people clearly don't. Using a bully pulpit, righteous sense of indignation and 140 characters doesn't help move the debate forward.Why not, when the most powerful country in the world introduces a law that means its illegal to get an abortion even if you are raped. You don’t need to understand the other side of the argument, when it’s completly and utterly wrong.
Good on him, glad he has an opinion, most footballers do not. Alabama should be ashamed of itself.
They aren’t similar at all, for the reasons I already outlined. Even if they were, I really don’t see the problem in speaking about something. It’s Alabama that’s absurd, not someone talking about it.It's absurd that he's calling out what's going on in America state politics when there are similar issues in GB. My point is that people obsess so much over American politics they neglect domestic politics which are far more important.
Absolutely. He can write what he likes but it’s the allusion he’s being radical is what bothers me. He’s just another celebrity in the left wing bubble acting morally superior to all those backward, stupid and possibly evil righties. It’s hardly a brave soundbite and, as you say, really not nuanced one bit.I wish famous people wouldn't make blanket statements like this. It doesn't feel like they are trying to understand the other side of the argument and just contributes to polarisation.
They would quickly be forced to apologise, realistically!Yea it's easy for footballers to write that opinion but I would be surprised to see a footballer say the opposite opinion, that abortion should be illegal and see how people react to that.
More people worldwide will know the history of NI better than Alabama.Northern Ireland is a Little country with a population of 1.8 million - what they do or don't do will never have an effect on the World in general. What happens in the US does have an effect.
In what way is he acting morally superiorAbsolutely. He can write what he likes but it’s the allusion he’s being radical is what bothers me. He’s just another celebrity in the left wing bubble acting morally superior to all those backward, stupid and possibly evil righties. It’s hardly a brave soundbite and, as you say, really not nuanced one bit.