Nothing wrong with publically offering your services to one club while under contract with another? On this, we disagree.
How long are we willing to take Pogba's insolance?
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If he doesn´t he is an idiot
Nothing at all. What is he supposed to say? "I would never play for scum like Madrid! Hala United"
players at lesser clubs ALWAYS say "its everyone's dream to play for a team like United" but because you lot think United are still big dawgs, you canny handle our players having the same ambitions and get salty. You are thinking "how dare this not be your pinnacle? How dare you think there is better than United?"
The thread title calls him insolent but he was actually quite polite
No, I'm just saying he wasn't playing very well. Just making sure we are talking about the same come back.
Sure. That's why the photos of him dancing came out. Part of the rehab, I guess. I remember reading some tweets as well, but I can't recall them anymore. Oh well.
Believe what you want to believe I guess.
He could simply say that he would be flattered by Real Madrid's interest but that he is focused on United and happy where he is. It's not that difficult to not burn bridges and also not create a media storm.
Actually he could have just said Madrids a good/ legendary/ amazing team but he’s a united player, not imply that it’s his dream to play for them.
show me another player who said it’s a dream to play for United while he’s playing for another club
That's not what we were talking about and you know it. Several posters addressed it and you have kept talking nonsense.
Would it be so difficult to show a little professionalism when faced with these questions about his future? All he needs to say is something like: " as I am currently under contract with United, it would be unethical of me to discuss playing for another club. Next question please."
Ronaldo would like a word with you.
He was. Unfortunately, the Caf is turning into Fox News with posters purposely post baiting headlines w/o context. From the article:
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/54469085
If he and everyone around him feel United treat him harshly then he’d be in for a huge shock at Madrid. Their fans don’t clap the team off after a pathetic performance. If we can can get a decent fee for him I’d move him on, it’s just not working. At 27 he still has value, before you know it he’ll be 30 and still have not achieved anything at United.
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...-play-manchester-united-one-day-a6839946.html
https://www.fourfourtwo.com/feature...g-premier-league-im-more-man-united-liverpool
https://strettynews.com/2020/03/31/...eals-his-dream-to-play-for-manchester-united/
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/foot...-united-transfer-news-timo-werner-rb-leipzig/
And don't forget Cristiano's seasonal courting of Madrid as well as Hazard. No one was up in their feels but people getting strangely salty over Pogba's dream. every boy has a dream....
EDIT : https://www.sportbible.com/football...ams-of-playing-for-manchester-united-20180227
https://strettynews.com/2019/04/24/...man-utd-dream-could-add-to-depth-in-midfield/
https://www.soccerladuma.co.za/news...d-playing-for-man-utd-would-be-a-dream/270568
http://mufclatest.com/emmanuel-boat...ht-now-he-needs-to-make-something-of-himself/
guess we should raid Leibzig
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He should be sold immediately. He may be a top class player but for sure he doesn't do the work of a top class player. Time and time again you see that in games he play that he loses possession and he doesn't work to get it back.
He lets his man run past him and we concede goals. Or someone further forward of him has to come back and defend.
He wants to go. So sell him. He is not Ronaldo or Rooney who works their socks off no matter what.
He lets his man run past him and we concede goals. Or someone further forward of him has to come back and defend.
He wants to go. So sell him. He is not Ronaldo or Rooney who works their socks off no matter what.
To me, his level of maturity doesn't match his age and experience. In games, on social media, in the media and just about everywhere he just struck me as very immature. It reflects in his style of play as well. Plays for himself, only very rarely seems serious and determined to play for the team and does all sorts of irrelevant things on the ball. I don't play it too much down as a ego thing. I think a big part of it is some sort of childish joy of doing his thing when he has the ball. Only problem is that he seems rather incapable of channelling these things at the right time. Instead of doing it occassianally, he more or less do it all the time. You'd expect from a 18 year old player, but also expect said player to learn when to do it and when not to.
The excuses are so frustrating. If Pogba is shit because United are shit then that means United are shit because Pogba is shit.
I've honestly never come across a player that requires so many excuses to justify his place in the squad. He is no where near world class, unless you think trying to beat three players 40 yards from your own goal and failing most of the time. He has so many flaws to his game, hence all the excuses.
I actually was upset about it and I have openly admitted that I'm still bitter about Ronaldo. And to be honest I care less about Pogba doing it because I don't rate him as much as I rated Ronaldo, if Pogba leaves we can replace him, Ronaldo was literally irreplaceable and he left for a lesser team because yes Real Madrid were a lesser team at the time, Madrid are as big of a club but they were at a relatively low point.
Let's be honest, 90% of our squad would have said the same about Real Madrid if asked especially when we are playing as shite as we are. Just that he seems to be one of the only worthy of being asked that.
Based on what? Because it's definitely not his performance.
no disagreement here
These last few weeks no, but his talent and his ability to play when paired with a a proper defensive midfield partner is clear such as Kante, Vidal etc.
At least Ronaldo was good enough to play for both clubs. Pogba shouldn't be anywhere near the United starting lineup
It was a fair answer to a question, about his future, but not in these times. He should of deflected that question about Madrid straight away, after how the year has started for United. If he stays in this form we will not get over 60 m for him. He won't be in my team against Newcastle but I bet he 'll still be in Ole's. Just had enough of him. Still having fun while we're playing like this really pis... me off!
I give up. We lose 6-1 and he is flirting with Madrid. He has no respect for the club and Ole.
Ole will have to get rid of him before he gets rid of Ole. No way would Ferguson tolerate this. Had Ferguson been in charge Pogba would never have been resigned.
Ole will have to get rid of him before he gets rid of Ole. No way would Ferguson tolerate this. Had Ferguson been in charge Pogba would never have been resigned.
I couldn’t give a feck what he done, doesn’t make what Pogba is doing right or ok either.
Ronaldo was actively pushing for a move, is that what Pogba is doing? Or is he just being a naive dick
Exactly. Players of this caliber are brought in to lift the club not the other way around. Look at Ibra compared to these fecking charlatans. Biggest ego in football and has had more issues with clubs than the three you mentioned but you could never accuse him of not being committed to the sport.
big lesson for Di Maria there, never meet your heroes
That’s just a load of links of players saying stuff that would understandably annoy the fans of the clubs they played for at the time.
A better idea would be links to United players, past and present, talking about their dreams of moving to another club. Thankfully, that’s s a much shorter list.
Good digging, and I don’t blame the for wanting to play here, I stand corrected.
I still think Pogba saying this after how our season as started and straight after that 6-1 drubbing he was directly at fault for 2 goals is extremely naive or just plain pimping
big lesson for Di Maria there, never meet your heroes
Plus he genuinely did lift the club. Important goals, in big games. Despite being several years past his best.
I was just pointing that it's fairly common practice and not as shocking as is being made out. Who wouldn't want better employment?
I feel people are just salty because they are struggling to come to terms with the shift of players "dreams" now focused elsewhere. I believe Lukaku recently said he dreamed of Serie A and playing with Conte, barely a year ago. It will become much more common in the dark ages post Fergie, as our stock has fallen. I have accepted our fate
I think you're both right.
It's one of the comforts of being mainly at the top of the food chain, most fans have lived through a period where there was generally nothing above United, so we lived in a world where it would have been foolish for a player to make such statements.
Ronaldo wanted to move but did he ever not give 100 effort every time he played?
Its difficult for some because a lot of us feel he hasn't fully delivered what he was billed to do but I have given up and am now apathetic to it all
Maybe it will become more common but we’re not there yet. So any player who comes out with the stuff Pogba just said will be rightfully pilloried. The owners might be ready to accept our new place in the pecking order of world football but most fans have a while to go before we accept our status as also rans.
Well there was the time he walked off the pitch without waiting to be subbed...
His 1st season Zlatan put him in his place. In his 2nd season Pep publicly said that he was offered Pogba. 3rd season went to war with the manager. 4th season injured. 5th season, well here we are. The guy is a fecking joke of a professional footballer in my opinion.
Exactly. I don't mind a prick as long as it's a professional prick who knows what it takes to be top of your sport. Ronaldo to Real was inevitable, the manager knew that. There were things said by the player and concessions made but when it was done none off us had any ill will towards any party involved. And Ronaldo was 100% correct in his decision. No way would his career reach those heights with us in this league. To even mention Pogba with the Ronaldo situation is insulting.