I suppose you don’t see the comedy of comparing Ballon D’Or winner Ronaldo and World class level Hazard to Pogba. It’s how absolutely stupid he looks whoring for a move to Madrid when he’s not even good enough for us right now.https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...-play-manchester-united-one-day-a6839946.html
https://www.fourfourtwo.com/feature...g-premier-league-im-more-man-united-liverpool
https://strettynews.com/2020/03/31/...eals-his-dream-to-play-for-manchester-united/
https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/foot...-united-transfer-news-timo-werner-rb-leipzig/
And don't forget Cristiano's seasonal courting of Madrid as well as Hazard. No one was up in their feels but people getting strangely salty over Pogba's dream. every boy has a dream....
EDIT : https://www.sportbible.com/football...ams-of-playing-for-manchester-united-20180227
https://strettynews.com/2019/04/24/...man-utd-dream-could-add-to-depth-in-midfield/
https://www.soccerladuma.co.za/news...d-playing-for-man-utd-would-be-a-dream/270568
http://mufclatest.com/emmanuel-boat...ht-now-he-needs-to-make-something-of-himself/
guess we should raid Leibzig
Exactly this. On top of that he hasn't done anything special for us and has a toxic agent. I could understand if he's single handedly carrying the team. Be he is not, he was not and he dares spouting these kind of bollocks. If he doesn't want to be at United then we should let him leave when possible. Has there been a single year without him making it all about himself? rather than looking at himself when the going gets tough, he 'hints' that he's 'open to leave', either him or his agent. Same story every time. Starting to get sick of it.I would sell this particular virus to Madrid.
He was all committed to us again when we were on a winning run at the back end of last season. As soon as things get tough again, he’s off spouting this again. Awfully toxic player with absolutely no bottle. Get rid. It’s just a shame Madrid won’t want him.
Our best run of form since Ole signed was without him, I want to get back to that.Exactly this. On top of that he hasn't done anything special for us and has a toxic agent.
I could understand if he's single handedly carrying the team. Be he is not, he was not and he dares spouting these kind of bollocks. If he doesn't want to be at United then just leave.
I think more importantly, he needs a 3 man midfield and he needs to be the most advanced one of the 3. Sort of a CM/CAM hybrid.These last few weeks no, but his talent and his ability to play when paired with a a proper defensive midfield partner is clear such as Kante, Vidal etc.
I agree.The thread title calls him insolent but he was actually quite polite
Why som many WC looking players turn out to be non-WC material for United?Said it during the window I'd have taken anything around 80m just to use it to help get Sancho.
I don't think he will ever turn it around here now. He will probably look world class in Spain as well.
I wanted that as well. The team was working really well, at a certain discussion I remember posting that we kept the midfield as it was and let Pogba fight for his place than being given a divine right to get back into the first team. Then there were a few posters who suggested statistics such as key passes, etc which was valid but overall, he really has done nothing special to be afforded that kind of privilege.Our best run of form since Ole signed was without him, I want to get back to that.
If that's your final defense, I have nothing to say about it. You believe what you want to believe.That's not what we were talking about and you know it. Several posters addressed it and you have kept talking nonsense.
I'm not the one that has to defend my claims, you are the ones who made a claim and couldn't bring a single element to support it.If that's your final defense, I have nothing to say about it. You believe what you want to believe.
My point was that regardless of how Pogba is doing - United won't actually buy a decent player to replace. So people unhappy with him might be careful what they wish forWho's he, though?
The Pogba we saw after the restart for a few blessed games where it actually looked as though we had a very good midfield? Very likely.
The almost mythical Pogba who has a potential very few midfielders in the world can match? Without any doubt.
The actual Pogba who has turned up for United more often than not since he came back from Italy? Nah, forget it. That Pogba won't be too hard to replace.
I did. You just say want you want to say and then stopped listening. You are free to not accept what I said. That's fine.I'm not the one that has to defend my claims, you are the ones who made a claim and couldn't bring a single element to support it.
You are the one who claimed that Pogba wasn't injured but benched.
Our best run of form under Ole was with him from December 22nd 2018 and March 2nd 2019.Our best run of form since Ole signed was without him, I want to get back to that.
Not everyone who doesn't want Pogba here is a "hater", grow up.The pogba haters united in this thread. Nice to read.
When Ole was interim, I said since Ole signed. Since then he has been absolutely cack. He wanted to show mean Jose how special he was and then it was back to the usual, getting his ass handed to him by average premier league footballers.Our best run of form under Ole was with him from December 22nd 2018 and March 2nd 2019.
Where did you do that? You didn't answer the question about September 2018 and you tried to claim that we lost against Watford in December 2018 due to Pogba's performance when we were already 2 goals down when he came in, you didn't mention the next game against Newcastle where he was good but was also limping in the last minutes..I did. You just say want you want to say and then stopped listening. You are free to not accept what I said. That's fine.
Exactly, hate is a strong word but you are allowed to call someone shit, lazy, self absorbed, totally unfit for a quick league etc.Not everyone who doesn't want Pogba here is a "hater", grow up.
Since Ole signed our best run includes Pogba, in June and early July 2020.When Ole was interim, I said since Ole signed. Since then he has been absolutely cack. He wanted to show mean Jose how special he was and then it was back to the usual, getting his ass handed to him by average premier league footballers.
Why don't City and Liverpool players do this. Hell even Harry Kane hasn't done that, yet we, Man United, should accept that nonsense.What year we're living in? 1983? 1964?
Players nowadays is just a PR machine.
Another toxic thread.
Did you read what I said? I clearly said I didn't blame Pogba for the loss.Where did you do that? You didn't answer the question about September 2018 and you tried to claim that we lost against Watford in December 2018 due to Pogba's performance when we were already 2 goals down when he came in, you didn't mention the next game against Newcastle where he was good but was also limping in the last minutes..
I agree to be honest but I aint gonna blast him for it. If he thinks he can hack it at Madrid, let him try. It will be amusing to see him crumble under the weight of expectation but if he proves me wrong, I can live with that too.I suppose you don’t see the comedy of comparing Ballon D’Or winner Ronaldo and World class level Hazard to Pogba. It’s how absolutely stupid he looks whoring for a move to Madrid when he’s not even good enough for us right now.
The difference between Ronaldo and Pogba is that I was genuinely sad to see Ronaldo go but was thankful for the the trophies he won for us. Pogba has a Ronaldo like ego without the footballing ability to match.
I honestly can't believe how anyone can still defend Pogba nowadays. He does himself no favor whatsoever.
He was asked a question about his future and gave a polite response. He doesn't have to commit to United for life. He may be talking about joining Madrid in his 30s. the circus around Pogba is similar to the circus around Trump and previously Obama. The mainstream media always like to jump on or misrepresent some of what they say and people love to get hysterical over it. we all just need to chill.We have just lost 6-1 on our own home and he was one of the worst players on the pitch but then few days later he comes and talk in a presser about his dream to play for Madrid. Just form watching him talking in the press conf video, he absolutely doesn't care. He doesn't give a shite as if we haven't just lost 6 on Old Trafford. He's talking so casually about his dream to play for another club. He knew he fecked up so he had to talk well then about us to balance the quote.
This kind of mentality is one of the many reasons of our downfall. Many players don't give a shite.
Is he world class though, consistency is a big part of being world class and does he have to be world class to be rated by us, the fans? I'm personally comfortable with the idea that he isn't world class and just a very good player under appropriate circumstances while it seems that many are still stuck with the idea they had before his transfer to United for a world record fee.He is the worst world class player I have ever seen...
World class talent, but no consistency whatsoever
Super athlete, but no real effort
Gifted technically, but never controls a game
Senior squad member, but never leads
“Has it all”, but needs very specific conditions/positions to perform.
Would much prefer a lesser “player” in his place, who knew how to play his role and gave it his all.
Definitely one of the reasons why we are where we are, rather than a world class superstar stuck in lowly Manchester.
I watched the full video of the quote. He absolutely shouldn't say things like "playing to Madrid is dream for me, why not one day?" even if he followed it with some praise of the club. It came so casually as if he wasn't the worst player on the pitch in a 6 - 1 loss at Old Trafford. It really shows he doesn't care as simple as that.I agree to be honest but I aint gonna blast him for it. If he thinks he can hack it at Madrid, let him try. It will be amusing to see him crumble under the weight of expectation but if he proves me wrong, I can live with that too.
He was asked a question about his future and gave a polite response. He doesn't have to commit to United for life. He may be talking about joining Madrid in his 30s. the circus around Pogba is similar to the circus around Trump and previously Obama. The mainstream media always like to jump on or misrepresent what they say and people love to get hysterical over it. we all just need to chill.
*foreign player does not see himself retiring at Man Utd* big deal
Absolute rubbish. He knows exactly what he's doing every time he does this. He knew what he was doing the first time he did it, and there's absolutely no way he doesn't know now, since he has seen the reaction the last time he did it. He, and his agent, are starting to angle for their way out.I agree to be honest but I aint gonna blast him for it. If he thinks he can hack it at Madrid, let him try. It will be amusing to see him crumble under the weight of expectation but if he proves me wrong, I can live with that too.
He was asked a question about his future and gave a polite response. He doesn't have to commit to United for life. He may be talking about joining Madrid in his 30s. the circus around Pogba is similar to the circus around Trump and previously Obama. The mainstream media always like to jump on or misrepresent some of what they say and people love to get hysterical over it. we all just need to chill.
*foreign player does not see himself retiring at Man Utd* big deal
So 3 or 4 games against Spurs, Brighton, Villa, Bournemouth. Sure pal.Since Ole signed our best run includes Pogba, in June and early July 2020.
What is our best run then?So 3 or 4 games against Spurs, Brighton, Villa, Bournemouth. Sure pal.
I told you, without Pogba in the team.What is our best run then?
