Shane88
Actually Nostradamus
Julien Laurens is saying that Mbappe is Madrid's target next summer so Pogba can sit and spin for another 18 months.
Why would you act childishly like that? It's a bit baffling.I disagree but feel free to not defend him with multiple posts defending him. Thanks pal, good chat.
Pogba and Raiola know this 1000 times more intimately than we do.Julien Laurens is saying that Mbappe is Madrid's target next summer so Pogba can sit and spin for another 18 months.
Mourinho didn't seem to have much issue with it...Are we convinced that Ole is even allowed to drop Pogba? Does Pogba have a clause in his contract which precludes this or is Pogba protected by Woody or the Glazers because he is a jersey seller?
And he got sackedMourinho didn't seem to have much issue with it...
Even Ed is not that dumb... we have Bruno, vDB.. he's not the only creative player we have nowPogba and Raiola know this 1000 times more intimately than we do.
this latest outburst is just a tactic to panic Woodward into offering a new contract on higher wages. Shows how little he thinks of United fans, and yet so many of ours lap it up and return with worship.
So crude and distasteful.
He got sacked when he wanted out.And he got sacked
That was an odd exchange alright.Why would you act childishly like that? It's a bit baffling.
I don’t think I’ve ever read two such contradictory paragraphs in my life.I like Pogba as a player, and I think critics are almost always wrong when criticizing him. He can easily go to a club like RM / Juve and be world class and finish his career there and win a CL or two + a Euro.
As a Utd fan, I don't really like his attitude. Given his current role for us (part of a double pivot behind a #10), I don't think he'll be missed very much if we replaced him with Fred / some other new CM. Maybe if we get a new manager like Ancelotti and the whole team is built around trying to get Pogba to be his best, he will do well, but it's unlikely at this point - we missed the boat on this one.
He actively tried to get sacked for 6 months, yes. Dropping Pogba was not why Mourinho was sacked.And he got sacked
Woody will want to ‘protect his asset value’.Even Ed is not that dumb... we have Bruno, vDB.. he's not the only creative player we have now
It is strange how the players with the most talent play so much below their ability after a while at our club. Happened to all our bigger signings post SAF, not just Pogba. Really hope Bruno doesn't follow the same path.What point are you disagreeing with, I didn't defend Pogba I questioned your claim about when our best run happened? I suggested nothing about Pogba, I simply stated the facts that both of our best runs under Ole have happened with Pogba, at no point did I suggest that it was due to Pogba but at the same time you can't go around and ignore facts just because they don't suit your attempt to have a pop at a player. There are enough arguments against Pogba to not make things up, I don't think that he provides what we need in center midfield, in our current setup so if Ole wanted to sell him and bring someone that is a better fit then great. But I also want to make a point that some may realize later, Bruno hasn't been good after the lockdown and he is part of our current problems, like Pogba he is individually above the rest of the team but if we don't fix his role and the way he interacts with the team, he will follow the same path that Mata, Di Maria and Pogba have followed.
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If he was committed, he'd say "I'm happy in Manchester" or words to that effect.He is answering a hypothetical question. It isn't his fault United fans are so touchy and entitled. As pointed out, dozens of players once said the same about playing for United one day.
He has been here 4 years. I am sure he could of left earlier if he really wanted to. Even if he was to leave end of next season, so what? He would of been here longer than what he spent at Juve. I wonder did he also say he dreamt of Madrid while at Juve and did their fans have an emotional breakdown
1) apples to oranges. footballers regularly talk about their plans for their careers. Aguero said he wants to play for Independiente one day. Should City fans start crying?Go into work on Monday and tell your boss that you've seen a great company thats a competitor and you really want to go and work for them. See how they react. Its ridiculous, indefensible behaviour.
Real didn't offer enough for Juve to acceptWhy did he not make this so called dream of playing for Madrid a reality when they came in for him while he was at Juve, choosing to go back to United instead?
Perhaps there was no dream. Perhaps he simply wants to leave for a club that is guaranteed silverware at the end of every campaign.
Why is is disrespectful though? was it disrespectful when Aguero said he would like to play for Independiente one day, despite being at City? Football is a short career. Footballers say this stuff all the time. Fans too sensitive.No one said that. It's just called being respectful to the club you're playing for at the moment, to not go on and talk about your dream of playing for another club, especially when the club is passing through a crap period of form. Very disrespectful for the club and fans you're playing for.
I agree we should move him on but there is no circus in my mind. It is created by bitter fans and clickbait media. I grew up in the 90s when Serie A stars would literally swap clubs and play for rival after rival in the same country. You guys would have a breakdown.........If he was committed, he'd say "I'm happy in Manchester" or words to that effect.
You're deluded and naive if you don't understand what he's doing here.
Almost as deluded as Paul and his pipe dream. No way Madrid are still interested.
Mostly hype this guy, these days.
Think we'd be much better served to move on from this circus.
I agree it’s not the first time he’s done it. I think he mentioned it because it was brought up to be fair but it’s the way he doesn’t shut it down but flirt with it that I don’t really like.Besides angling for a move, I cannot think of a valid reason for Pogba to mention Madrid.
It's not the first time he's done it either. Only this time he chose not to use Raiola as his mouthpiece.
I've no issue with players switching clubs. Those players also performed well for their clubs.I agree we should move him on but there is no circus in my mind. It is created by bitter fans and clickbait media. I grew up in the 90s when Serie A stars would literally swap clubs and play for rival after rival in the same country. You guys would have a breakdown.........
he didn't agitate. He was asked a question. Its not like he demanded an interview and said "I hear Spain is sunny". In Summer 2019 he agitated. This time he just answered question about where is career could end up.I've no issue with players switching clubs. Those players also performed well for their clubs.
Pogba doesn't, for the most part perform well for us. The minute the chips are down, he starts agitating for a move. That's the difference.
I will love Cristiano till the day I die.
Pogba is just a weasel.
I really hope he isn’t offered a new contract.It's pretty clear at this point Pogba is never going to be the midfielder who will lead the charge to get us back to the top.
He's in a pretty shit position now as well. We've got Bruno who has eclipsed Pogba in every sense since arriving. We've just signed VdB. Pogba has been in dismal form for most of the last 12-18 months, bar a few purple patches. His stock both inside and outside the club has really tanked.
He'll still get offered a new deal by Woody, because Woody is a moron. And obviously he still has plenty of admirers who would definitely not say no to a cut-price Pogba signing, or even getting him on a free. Hopefully we cut our losses but I expect us to offer him a ridiculous contract that he and Raiola will gobble up.
Also those players were regularly winning the league league and other trophies. He's not.No one was bigger than the club was Fergie's motto. He punished Keane, Beckham, and Rooney and others, and was shown respect from all players. I remember what the club was like before Fergie took over and he changed it to our advantage. Best manager ever.
it really is this. his wages are going to be fecking massive and he’s playing like dogshit. They are going to want to protect this asset big time. Yet more decisions that we will look back on and go what the hell were we at... if we are being honest Jose (Not a fan anymore) was trying to tell us all along. He’s not done enough to be our star player or be called world class and I think Jose was throwing down the gauntlet, Pogba wanted to leave and this started a fight with the manager but we didn’t ever plan on selling Pogba anyway so Pogba stays and Jose gets not backed and fired after getting us second.... A virus indeed. I can understand the guy seriously questioning the clubs sporting goals and direction behind the scenes and he’s probably the star player in a better team but I’m more sick of him begging Real to come get him every summer. If we can get decent money for him let him go Let’s start moving on from Pogba. His heart is clearly not in it. We tried everything, even changing managers for him, and it didn’t really work. Let him train his way back into the team from now. Ole better fecking drop him for the Newcastle game anyway. He’ll probably come on and change the game then...back to square one.Pogba and Raiola know this 1000 times more intimately than we do.
this latest outburst is just a tactic to panic Woodward into offering a new contract on higher wages. Shows how little he thinks of United fans, and yet so many of ours lap it up and return with worship.
So crude and distasteful.
You’ll be happy paying £14.95 to watch him then next week after he said he dreams of Real Madrid.9 pages....... feels like groundhog day. Must be the 4th or 5th time Pogba has let us know he would someday like to team up with Zidane at Real. Yet each time 9 pages.....why?
did you think he has changed his life goals?
will I feck. FreeStreamTeamYou’ll be happy paying £14.95 to watch him then next week after he said he dreams of Real Madrid.
Crap laptop, TeamRadio for mewill I feck. FreeStreamTeam
Is anyone even arguing that he must stay at Utd? Most are saying he could or should have given a more neutral answer.Why can't he play for Madrid one day? Does he have to retire at United for you to be happy?
I don't anticipate any of our foreign born players want to end their careers here
Wow. You genuinely believe that's what happened? That's mind boggling to me.he didn't agitate. He was asked a question. Its not like he demanded an interview and said "I hear Spain is sunny". In Summer 2019 he agitated. This time he just answered question about where is career could end up.
Oh yes, he is. He got him in the first place, don't forget.Even Ed is not that dumb... we have Bruno, vDB.. he's not the only creative player we have now
Let's pray he has the mother of all epiphanies and realizes the asset value he needs to protect is that of the entire club.Woody will want to ‘protect his asset value’.
Now the Aguero case is a completely different one, I was expecting you to mention Hazard doing it at Chelsea, and my answer to it is the same to my answer about your Leibzing players, yes, it's disrespectful to the team and fans you are playing for, to say that you dream to play for anther big team, especially in the circumstances we are in at the moments.Why is is disrespectful though? was it disrespectful when Aguero said he would like to play for Independiente one day, despite being at City? Football is a short career. Footballers say this stuff all the time. Fans too sensitive.
Half of Leibzig players have said they would dream to play for Man Utd. I guess you were ok with it then?