I Now Have Nothing But Outright Contempt For Van Gaal And The Board
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I'm taking over this thread because my opinion is better.
'I'm Not Happy' - A Perspective About United's Form
I'm not happy about United's form.
I have no contempt for him. He's trying his best and it's just not working out.
That said, Fener is also a team of mine, and we're putting in a strong title challenge this season.
It turns out that I'm very happy.
You're just being childish now.
I wish Fenerbache the best, how are nani and RVP coming along this season?
The topic is:
'I'm Not Happy' - A Perspective About United's Form
Stay on topic, please.
Well, I'm not happy about United's form, but I'm happy with them.
United fans may have left early to beat the traffic.
Right............
its got to Moyes-esque levels now when every time I listen to him speak I want to take a baseball bat to my TV.
Right............
its got to Moyes-esque levels now when every time I listen to him speak I want to take a baseball bat to my TV.
You sound very mature for your age.
In a way yes. Because we might be trying to get Pep/Jose in and they might turn us down. To me and you, nothing happened but to those involved they tried to do something but it didn't work out.
Contempt? No. LVG is either past it – or not. But contempt isn't appropriate. He's not a contemptible figure – a crazy, potentially incompetent figure, yes. But he isn't contemptible unless something surprisingly damning should come to light. The board? Woody? Yes, very possible. But the jury's out. Can't pass judgment on him/them until they've actually revealed their cards. And in fairness – they haven't. Yet.
I nominate @Mr Pigeon
Will he do interviews in rhyme? Or go into alternative Juan Mata mode?
Thank you.
I bloody hope so.
You say that like it is a choice,
To use my own or Mata's voice.
But I'll use both, so please rejoice,
As I put Woody's head in a vice. Voy-se. V(o)ice ah feck it I don't care anymore.
Woody, Woody.
What the f*ck?
Your forehead is shaped like a truck.
Your management all f*cking suck.
I hope you get punched by a duck.
Our progression is f*cking stuck.
You've dragged our name right through the muck.
Once more please get punched by a duck.
Woody, Woody.
What the f*ck?
What the f*ck?
Your forehead is shaped like a truck.
Your management all f*cking suck.
I hope you get punched by a duck.
Our progression is f*cking stuck.
You've dragged our name right through the muck.
Once more please get punched by a duck.
Woody, Woody.
What the f*ck?
You're a genius.I hope not, I locked myself out of my flat last week
This is basically LVG and the board's response to our complaints of tumescent football
My mum's not doing much these days.
But LvG is a genius... maybe we can hope he locks himself out of workI hope not, I locked myself out of my flat last week
.Unfortunately the list of patents before 1969 aren't available but you can see that the NASA progresses in their projects because of them, the NASA is always inventing something. In the case of LVG no one is asking him to invent football, his mission is to achieve what other managers are achieving with less resources.
It was more to do with my assertion that the Board is doing nothing. He asserted that we don't know the Board is doing nothing.
As far as I see it, until the Board is seen to have done something about Van Gaal's uselessness, they've done nothing.
We can dream, we can dreamBut LvG is a genius... maybe we can hope he locks himself out of work
Out of interest, where did you stand on Moyes when things got really bad during his time here (so from about Dec-April)?
What you describe is pretty much how i felt about Moyes from early on after he took over.
Replacing Van Gaal might help short term but only with some experience, if it's Giggs i would rather just keep LVG until the summer.
I didn't feel quite so bad about Moyes at that time , he'd only been in the job for - what - 4 or 5 months by then and I thought he should be given a bit more time.
Van Gaal has been in the job for 18 months now, time enough to have made at least modest improvements. He also doesn't help himself with some of his ludicrous utterances.
Fair enough mate was just interested, i don't want to seem like i'm defending LVG as i'm pretty much at the stage where i think he should go too.
But i still don't think things are as bad as they were under Moyes, we have improved in areas. The last 6 weeks or so has been our worst period since LVG took over. Before that we were alright.
I still think we'll at least come in the top 4, and i don't think he can really do much damage if he stays on until July and we replace him then. Can't say i ever felt that way about Moyes once i felt he had to go.
I have to say I wish I were as confident as you in a top 4 finish, there doesn't seem much at the moment to suggest that may happen.
What gives you any confidence that we will finish top 4? With the greatest of respect, it cant be anything other than faith. There are no footballing signs of improvement.
Well it took a run of 6 games without a win including 3 defeats in a row to drop us out of the top 4. I don't see us repeating that any time soon. A lot of that run was down to our injury crisis.
We will get more players back from injury eventually, Rooney looks to be picking up some form and we're only 2 points off 4th and what 5-6 off 2nd. A few wins in a row, a few draw/defeats for other teams and things can easily change.
I'm not 100% sure we ill come in the top 4, but even at this stage i would be a bit surprised if we didn't get back in there eventually to be honest.
A few points:
Don't see us repeating that? There are no signs to suggest we can win games consistently - that's my point.
The injury crisis had some impact but not on a lot of the really poor results. The dropped points against Norwich, Bournemouth, Stoke, Chelsea or Newcastle had nothing to do with the players available.
Its going to take more than 2 games for me to have any belief in a resurgent Rooney so jury is out on that. Those 2 points will most likely be 5 after Spurs play their game in hand which in turn will be 8 when they beat Sunderland and we kick off against Liverpool.
My point is i don't see us being so bad again as to lose 3 in a row and not win in six. I hope our form will improve.
Never said our poor run was all down to injuries.
Thats viewing our prospects from an ultra pessimistic point of view. Don't worry mate i've been there, i was like that during Moyes time here.
But we will see, if we miss out on the top 4 so be it. I doubt bringing in another manager at this stage is going to dramatically improve our chances especially if it's Giggs.
I don't think its being pessimistic at all but see why you are saying that - all im thinking is its two games at home for Spurs. I fully expect they will take 6 points from that. Liverpool away is difficult enough nevermind kicking off knowing you will be 8 points off 4th place.
It's not certain though. Spurs aren't in amazing form themselves lets not forget. They have only won 4 games since the end of November. And drew their last two including one at home vs Leicester, who they play tonight again. After that it's a home game vs sunderland, probably a win there to be fair.
And then two tough away games vs Leicester again and Palace. So i don't see them picking up 12 points from that in my opinion. I think theres a few draws in there for spurs and maybe even a loss.
Of course - that's possible. Just don't see any signs that we can take advantage of any slip up's. They are more consistent than us.
Well my optimism might be borne out of hope more than anything. I don't know i just think we will kick on a bit, Rooney has remembered how to play football and there are some signs there we are improving in an attacking sense.
If anything after the 6 weeks we endured before the Swansea game we can't get much worse lol.