Did you see the spell Steyn bowled against us in SA recently?
Fair enough. I generally do agree but I'd just say that lets wait before forming a judgement on the upcoming lot. Look at Yuvraj's growth in this tournament alone, he's suddenly looking like a beast of a player who seems to have matured. I think there will be fewer players of that level but maybe there will be a few.
No, you're not alone. I couldn't give a toss. It's like worrying about the Community Shield after you've won the Champions League
Agreed, I feel the same way. Especially after so many of the teams have been changed around completely as well.
Inigo's analogy is spot on.
I'll watch it if I'm really bored or if Sachin's batting, but I don't understand the IPL's popularity. The funny thing is that the people who do watch it, I doubt they really deeply care for the result.
At least one guy retains the hunger.What a fantastic response.
I don't mind repeating everything.
MS Dhoni's response, when asked about his next goal, now that he had scaled all possible peaks as a captain
Sehwag -
His average in OZ is pretty good, England one is respectable as well. So I guess he is somewhat in the middle right now, not like Sachin, Dravid or Laxman who have equally good records in foreign pitches.
Coming good in WC is not suddenly going to make Yuvraj a test match batsman. He is always a monster player in ODIs when he is at his pomp.
I'd hazard a guess and say that his ODI record in NZ and SA would be excellent. it's strange how he hasnt managed to do well in Tests there. But keeping in mind he's an opening bat who isn't your classic Test batsman, his record in Oz and England more than proves his mettle outside the subcontinent.
It's clearly not about simply performing in the world cup. He does seem to have turned a corner and from all accounts has matured as a person and a player. And if that is the case hell make the test team because he has all the talent to do so.
Amir would definately have been up there, shame he had to ruin his legacy, and its only his fault...
Mate, this is the Cricket thread posted in the Other Sport Forum. I've got no issues with you getting on the soapbox regarding political issues but that post was not in any way to do with Cricket or Sport in general...
Definitely? You know how many young talents don't fulfill their potential?
Exactly. The feckers.
The way he was going, bearing in mind he was simultaneously spot-fixing towards the end, the world was literally his oyster. Its not even up for debate - you only have to look at Parnell who is around 3 years older and was his contemporary in the 2009 T20. He hit a stagnant period, but Amir went from strength to strength.
Rooney was very complete at 18. He doesn't look like he's going to end up anywhere near Zinadine Zidane despite doing much greater things at 18.
You've clearly made your mind up about exactly how his career was going to pan out which is absurd. I find the assumption of anyone, even if it was Sachin Tendulkar, becoming an all time great based on such a young career absurd, and he's the greatest. Because it takes application, dedication, balls and many other things apart from talent to be that good.
Because there are no guarantees of going down as an all-time great, no matter how much the talent is.
I think he would've become a fantastic bowler. Of course nothing is a certainty. That said...Fergie said something about Giggs being a certainty when he first cast eyes on him...I think his actually words were 'if he doesn't make it, then we may as well pack it in...'
Well in that case even I think he would have become a very very good bowler. But the talk was about all time great. And I'm just saying it's not a certainty, ever.
Pathan's debut series was in Australia, and he performed brilliantly at that. Then he went to Pakistan and then again performed brilliantly. Pathan had PROVED himself at the top stage, but feck knows what happened and he faded away. Amir was a world class talent, but to say that he would've have become a All-Time great is just pure delusion.
Yes. And yes you're right about greatness. It's only something that can be measured years into someone's career. I think Pakistan lost two fantastic bowlers...Asif in particular was top top drawer. He was on his way in becoming very special - but some people don't deserve talent. What an utter cnut for being such a waster.
But really what's the point of Amir's ban. He's going to be 23 when his ban ends so that's a huge let off for a cheat IMO. I don't understand why they don't hand out life bans.
He was under 18. I believe in redemption - everyone deserves a second chance.
But going by the what was reported, Amir did not show any remorse in the courts, so he does not deserve a second chance IMO. In fact if he had confessed and helped to make a case against the other two, he would have gotten a lighter punishment!
