Apart from England vs Saffers I can’t think of one match this tournament between two of the top teams that has been batting first
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The main teams right now appear to me to be really close together in quality. One off games only really prove a team was better in that game.
Pakistan played pretty well unlike our superstar indian team. I think Australia will win the final.
On the contrary being able to perform in KO situations with everything on the line separates the good from the great.
That dropped catch changed it. Huge moment and cost us the game.
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my badI think you misunderstood Atherton or my post, bro. India were the favourites and they did not win the tournament. No favourite team going into the WC T20 has ever thetournament.What is he basing the 'favourites' tag on? Because Pakistan weren't even fancied to progress never mind win it.
This would never have been possible in my day when we played without a helmet. Phenomenal skillset and eye bat coordination.
Alright, thought he said it based on the result today. He could've said that a couple of weeks ago because India were never really in the tournament!
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I reckon NZ are gonna get marmalised
Australia are just clutch. Batting second helped for sure but still...
Batting second aspect is overrated.
Aussies were just ruthless. I don't see much other teams playing those scoops to Shaheen either.
It's really not overrated. It is a massive advantage in this world cup.
A very slight advantage. We hardly saw any towels out today or agains the Kiwis and in both games teams bowled some crap deliveries.
Agree. Not seeing the argument. If it was so much better, why would the teams be behind the game for 16 overs?
It’s markedly different conditions from some of the earlier games where there was dew.
Even earlier on, a lot of teams lost the toss and batted poorly in the first dig. Like India getting out for 110 vs nz is nothing to do with the toss. That was just shit batting and then we blamed the toss. You aren’t going to defend 110, dew or no dew.
Aussies in world cups are like Real Madrid in CL under Zidane. No matter how they play through the tournament, they’ll somehow end up winning the final.
There’s been so much hilarious stuff written about the Aussies & the World Cup in this thread. How come they have never won the t20 World Cup if they are so good in ICC events. Heck they haven’t even made the final in 10 years. They got bullied in the semifinal of the last 50 over wc and they have won one icc tournament out of the last 10. Spare me the Aussies are different gravy crap
At this point it’s genuinely bizarre to argue that batting second isn’t a massive advantage. If you look at matches between India,Nz & Pak and then matches between Aus,Eng,Saf & WI in the other group plus the semifinals 10 out of 11 have been won chasing. You can’t possibly just believe that it’s because the better team is chasing all the time
The results in the big matches is proof enough, right. Even the pitches play better second half.
Watching the replay and Warner's miss did sound like an edge.
Reckon that bat's handle is not the best so might need to relegate it to being a net bat
Reckon that bat's handle is not the best so might need to relegate it to being a net bat
Yes. But teams getting steam rolled after batting first up, isn't down to the toss. There is an advantage but you still have to put up a score then play flawlessly. The margins are so fine.
It's like going first in penalties
So far this world Cup, there is an advantage. Pakistan for example had so many wickets left but would have sacrificed a few to get more runs if they were chasing
I think even a slight advantage which you have now conceded is still an advantage when two big teams go at it.
A slight advantage is all you need for evenly matched sides. It is a game of fine margins.
I concede there is a slight advantage but some are posting its a sure conclusion that the chasing team will win. Simply not the case. The three balls Shaheen went for that cost him 3 sixes had not much to do with the dew. Same case for India vs NZ and Pakistan.
In fact, I would say Australia didn't even have the slight advantage vs Pakistan you hardly saw a towel out there
Congrats to Australia on winning the world cup
Aussies bowl. Unlucky NZ
fecking Aussies have won the toss and by default the World Cup. Yawn.
p.s I'll still watch mind.
p.s I'll still watch mind.
Sky are such hypocrites. Love talking about carbon neutrality but have flown out Key, Ward and Curren just for the final 
Aussies win the toss and thus will win the trophy.
The one time Finch lost the toss they got absolutely slaughtered by England.
The one time Finch lost the toss they got absolutely slaughtered by England.
Hoping for a high scoring high chasing nail biting match. Plenty of 6s please.
Well bowled. First one gone.
Hazelwood's just choked them out at the top
NZ started well but poor end to the PP. Zampa yet to bowl too.
I'd bowl out Hazlewood here. They can't get him away and are looking desperate
10 an over only gets them 170 from here
NZ need to pick it up big time these next few overs.
Far too many dot balls.